Do all fansites fake their statistics?

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15-03-2013, 05:40 PM
edible

Do all fansites fake their statistics?

Although this is the only fansite I regularly visit I saw Habbo updated their fansite list. I went on some of these pages and noticed that some fake their statistics, especially plug-ins such as "Top daily posters" "Members online". Of course, I understand why - the more active you look, the better you look. I have counted through some of Habbox's statistics and don't see any irregularities.

http://i.imgur.com/JTywTiz.png

So - it says they have 143 members on but there are only 93 names there.

I looked on vBulletin and found plug ins that can do this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=252753

I was just wondering, if all fansites fake their members?

I won't name this fansite, although some might recognise it, just to show you what I mean.
15-03-2013, 05:44 PM
Inseriousity.

I think it's quite common. For example, I've seen evidence before that shows that some fansites fake their radio stats and we are actually beating them even though the numbers make it look like they're hugely in front. As far as I know, Habbox has never resorted to this.
15-03-2013, 05:50 PM
Kieran

There's also hidden members you can't see as well as spiders from search engines.
15-03-2013, 05:52 PM
GoldenMerc

When I was Site Manager at HabbCrazy we faked them then, but i disabled them, they they enabled them for up to 80 hours or something similar, so past 3-4 days
15-03-2013, 05:54 PM
edible

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kieran

There's also hidden members you can't see as well as spiders from search engines.

Go on the site at any time of the day and there will always be +50. Never 49, never 27. Always 50. It's definitely a plugin.
15-03-2013, 05:56 PM
Kieran

That's cause there is 50 online at the moment. You just can't see them all where as I can.
15-03-2013, 06:07 PM
edible

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kieran

That's cause there is 50 online at the moment. You just can't see them all where as I can.

I'm not on about Habbox.
16-03-2013, 09:42 AM
PixelBuilder

While i think using plugins to make your site appear more popular is quite dumb, there's nothing in the rules for official fansites that says that it isn't allowed.
16-03-2013, 10:01 AM
GoldenMerc

Shouldn't be a rule, its easy enough to notice. If a site can lie about that, what else could they be lying about :o
16-03-2013, 12:05 PM
Jazz

Everyone knows there are a few fansites out there that are well known for their fake stats, not just with forums but with the radio's also

like for example 'Stream is up at 128 kbps with 41 of 2013 listeners (35 unique)'. its not as bad at this site as it usually i, but still.

There is a plugin for everything these days on VB or MyBB which will hide truth from any site.
16-03-2013, 12:15 PM
wixard

what is that website i wanna go there it's more active than this DUMP
16-03-2013, 12:41 PM
Empired

Radios are the worst IMO. They make their stats look great by showing overall listeners instead of unique ones and they get their listeners to load the radio on like 10 different pages to make themselves look good.
16-03-2013, 01:08 PM
Joseei

Over at HFFM Forum, we exposed this ages ago just like you with a word count, the fansite faking their users in the picture is ThisHabbo Forum. They usually have 20-30 fake users all the time, depending on time of day etc. that's ThisHabbo for you.
16-03-2013, 01:21 PM
GoldenMerc

They arent fake users, they just make the expire date later on the timer :P
16-03-2013, 04:08 PM
Aaron

It's just one of these things that certain sites might have to make themselves look any better than other fansites.

Don't think it's right, but each fansite have different management with different ideas. :P
17-03-2013, 04:06 AM
Joseei

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenMerc

They arent fake users, they just make the expire date later on the timer :P

No, they still fake them anyways. You only get logged out after 4 hours idle on their forum.
17-03-2013, 11:06 AM
GoldenMerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseei

No, they still fake them anyways. You only get logged out after 4 hours idle on their forum.

It was longer than that back when I was around, was like 48 hours :P
17-03-2013, 12:35 PM
Red

Think its quite common. I know thishabbo and hffm have both faked their listeners, because a friend who djed there sent me the shoutcast statistics.
17-03-2013, 01:14 PM
scottish

you can't see everyone

a lot of people especially on habboxforum use invisible

so if you look at the forum stats you might see 30 members online at 2am where as only 23 show on the online list
19-03-2013, 09:58 AM
Libaration

Quote:

Originally Posted by California

Everyone knows there are a few fansites out there that are well known for their fake stats, not just with forums but with the radio's also

like for example 'Stream is up at 128 kbps with 41 of 2013 listeners (35 unique)'. its not as bad at this site as it usually i, but still.

There is a plugin for everything these days on VB or MyBB which will hide truth from any site.

I would stab myself in the ears before listening to anything at 128 kbps.
19-03-2013, 11:20 AM
Joseei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red

Think its quite common. I know thishabbo and hffm have both faked their listeners, because a friend who djed there sent me the shoutcast statistics.

If you knew anything, HFFM don't fake their listeners. It's called CloudFlare, it messes with the unique listeners.
19-03-2013, 11:52 AM
Zak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kieran

There's also hidden members you can't see as well as spiders from search engines.

This.

Google is almost always active on my forum.
19-03-2013, 04:04 PM
GoldenMerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseei

If you knew anything, HFFM don't fake their listeners. It's called CloudFlare, it messes with the unique listeners.

Think you'll find it doesn't thats absolute rubbish.
20-03-2013, 02:09 PM
Joseei

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenMerc

Think you'll find it doesn't thats absolute rubbish.

No, it really isn't.
20-03-2013, 02:13 PM
Accipiter

To my understanding HFFM doesn't fake its statistics, not on the forum, radio or site.

We legitimately get 3000 posts in one day on good days.
20-03-2013, 03:06 PM
Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseei

No, it really isn't.

The dj told me they did and sent the shoutcast admin... lmao @Accipiter; This was long before tryhabbo merged with hffm and it was just the radio statistics.
20-03-2013, 03:11 PM
Accipiter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red

The dj told me they did and sent the shoutcast admin... lmao @Accipiter; This was long before tryhabbo merged with hffm and it was just the radio statistics.

Since we've merged I don't believe they've had any reason to fake statistics, we have some fab dj's like bot (ross) who causes such a good audience
27-03-2013, 05:19 AM
Martin

The only way Habbox 'fakes' stats, although its not really faking at all, is that some users stay permanently on the online list even when they are not online due to a bug which I think is to do with tapatalk keeping them logged in :P like at 5am in the morning there are quite a few people on the online list that logged off hours ago/yesterday etc :P I don't think its fixable though unfortunately :(
27-03-2013, 08:29 AM
GoldenMerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martini-

The only way Habbox 'fakes' stats, although its not really faking at all, is that some users stay permanently on the online list even when they are not online due to a bug which I think is to do with tapatalk keeping them logged in :P like at 5am in the morning there are quite a few people on the online list that logged off hours ago/yesterday etc :P I don't think its fixable though unfortunately :(

Thats a bug tapatalk's end, thus will be thousands of sites having same problem
27-03-2013, 09:44 AM
tm

At habbos.net/habboing.com we used to extend the users online 'timeout' to slightly improve online numbers during quiet times. I'm 100% sure other websites are doing the same and even just faking stats. This is something that actually happens on websites for RL businesses across the world.