Just wondering what the purpose of the reintroduction of the senior position was, other than to bolster egos of already established members of the department of course 8-)
question:
What is difference between head/senior positions?
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Just wondering what the purpose of the reintroduction of the senior position was, other than to bolster egos of already established members of the department of course 8-)
question:
What is difference between head/senior positions?
The reason the Senior DJ role was brought because we felt that there should be a stepping stone from a Regular DJ to Head DJ because in the past a few people were very overwhelmed with the amount of a Head DJ actually does, with this stepping stone it will help me decide who to put up and who I feel would be suited to the role hence the reappearance of the role. Although, you were asking in the help desk about the role I wasn't aware that we are allowed to discuss it so my apologies for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
- Report any Show Issues, Missed Slots OR Swearing In Song that happen in any show
- Post feedback about any DJ you tune into
- Host 1 event per month (This could vary from a Credit Giveaway - Assisting a Head DJ with an event).
- Provide team comments on the Weekly Leaderboard about your allocated team (This can change)
- Provide a comment on monthly reports
- Assist a Head DJ in a team bonding event
That is quite similar to the Head DJ role but its only back as a trial run just to test the water and see whether the role actually helps or not.
seems like overdelegation if you ask me
didnt answer my question though, what is difference between head and senior? could you use 1 role for it all and give them a short period to get to grips with it
A senior DJ some might say is an Assistant Head DJ (without the Asssistant part). I personally think because a few people were struggling with the Head DJ role we may as well bring in something that could help people who have potential but maybe aren't ready for the actual Head DJ as such. So Senior role is well I hope getting them ready for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
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Originally Posted by Despect
You promote people to head DJ because they are better than the rest and hard working, if they cant "handle" the work surely that means YOU picked the wrong person for the job?
Perhaps yes, but I promote people who I feel are showing potential and who I feel could handle the role, I guess sometimes you have to take those risks and give people a chance till you finally find someone who is able to handle the job. Either way, I feel Senior DJ is a stepping stone and I feel at this moment in time is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sex
Apart from the monthly event aren't those things all done by the community anyway since it's literally just feedback on shows? Oh and the team bonding thing but that's a pointless waste of time and resources anyway
I mean them actually hosting an event so for example a giveaway on habbo whether being a rare/norm giveaway or a credit giveaway :).Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Bringing seniors back was mention when I was Head DJ about 2 months ago but it seem to have stopped there. It is finally in place I suppose and as a trial they will know if it was worth bringing it back or not. This like this will always have negatives & positives but the negatives can easily change. If it wasn't for me being busy with real life job and lost all my 5000 music due to my computer broke I would of still be here as Head DJ. Yes there is a lot of requirements to do but when you have people to encourage you, it goes well. :)
There is an absolutely MASSIVE step between regular DJ and Head DJ, and even the most dedicated DJs have been known to struggle with it!
The biggest thing for me about bringing these roles back is making sure that we can tune in and feedback round the clock. Although technically any DJ could report to any of the Heads or James, they generally don't - with the Seniors brought in, the Senior+ team (8 of us - I'm still doing the Head role at the moment) can pretty much tune into every show, which means that DJs can have better feedback. Especially that it's more thorough (Seniors and Heads will both be providing better & more consistent feedback now), and more fair, as the Head may only be able to listen to one of their shows in the week, whereas this way the Senior under the Head will be able to fill in any holes the Head may have missed.
There's also the added bonus of more 'forced' events, we have the resources to do it but not many people use it, Seniors are also asked to host events each month!
And rewarding people for their work, it's shown in the past that if any staff member puts in lots of effort and it rarely gets recognised with promotions it can lead feeling a bit 'stale' - now whilst I completely disagree with arbitrary promotions, there are plenty of staff within HabboxLive who deserve a promotion, and can't commit to the Head role (as it's VERY time consuming), or could really help out - it's a fantastic step between the two.
Also like I just commented, the Head role is very time consuming, tuning into as many of your team's shows (you could have 10 DJs in your team, 3 slot MINIMUM, that's 30 hours a week!), writing feedback, doing your own shows, reports - it's not easy, and with the assistance of seniors it's just going to ease the Head role.
A bizarre reason to bring it back. There are huge leaps in all sorts of departments. In competitions the gap between comps staff and assistant competitions manager is enormous from one of the easiest jobs at Habbox to one of the most admin-heavy jobs there is. Does that mean that comps should have seniors? No, you introduce seniors because there's a need for them. Laura's explanation makes more sense but surely heads wouldn't be expected to tune into every show people on their team does so long as they catch at least one.
while we're here, why is guest dj back too
it failed more than once
Guest DJ never went away, we just have very few of them (long serving DJs, ex managers etc)
Im happy senior is back. It was great with Habbox before Jade removed it.
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It did, I stopped it when I was AGM. Felt like all the DJs just wanted to be guest DJ although the department was in a different position back then when a team needed to be built up.
Yeah that was the point, that's the only thing on the list that isn't already done by everyone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Despect
personally i don't think the people chosen for senior are the best. 2/4 of them are worth it. the other 2. no.
But, more to the point .it's a unnecessary role, and however long it's not been there it's been coped with. so i don't quite understand.
I'm quite happy senior is back. I did notice when this change occurred that Head DJ's were getting a little too much thrown on them. The senior DJ system worked so much more effectively than getting the Head DJ's to do everything under the sun. Head DJ's had enough on their plates:
Head DJ structure
- Control Group DJ's
- PM Each DJ on Feedback
- PM DJ for every break of rules (average PM's I sent per day was about 9 to my group of 15)
- Host events 3 times a month
- Host on the giveaway account twice a week
- Post reports montly
- Weekly leaderboard
- Assist in show issues
- Assist management
- Help with applications
Theres a hell of a lot more, but when senior was removed all this stuff was added. Show issues, extra minimums etc. These minimums were literally based on current managements performances so was ridiculous because surprisingly regardless of our activity on Habbo some of us had real lives and didn't spend 20 hours a week DJing.
can somebody post statistics of time spent djing for each individual dj over past 4-8 weeks. is that kind of data available? @Kardan; @Despect; @Wigan;
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also you need to remove grig from hxl staff page and ensure that images are displaying...
http://puu.sh/7va4H.png
slackin
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Originally Posted by Kyle
I will remove Grig from the staff page however, those broken images isn't something I've done because the images seem to be working completely fine for me and not had anyone else having a problem with broken images.
I know quite a few deserved the role itself but didn't get promoted. Is it because they have their favorites? I am not saying the one's who are seniors doesn't deserve the promotion because you are right 2/4 worked hard for it for the past few months from when I was Head DJ. I even mentioned when I left who was even fit for my replacement but wasn't being considered I guess, well not yet. I am not saying Drewar is not fit at the position because he is doing fine from what I can see anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chug!
But from what I can see , you have experience and they didn't consider you as senior at least? Odd.... Because you do have experience in the role and even as Head DJ if I am not mistaken. Yes oh right you do you use to be my Head DJ once if I can remember. I still say they should of considered you and a few others who deserved the spot.
+ rep to you Sam x
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Originally Posted by Wigan
When I was Head DJ we had to do all that yes and plus other requirements which we had loads of work to do. Yet some people didn't realize that and complained, why is reviews being posted late and what such....well now you know why it was taking long. I did my best to send mine in as soon as possible but with all our duties form Head DJ+ and our normal dj duties as well, it was loaded.
Now with this Senior DJ being brought out again in trial I am guessing, it should ease the work for the Head DJs. No matter how good and experienced you are in that job, a little of help doesn't hurt. :)
+ Rep to you Jazz x
There are a few other people who would do well in the position, we considered quite a few as a Head DJ team, but the final chosen ones were all chosen on merit!
I'm sure if one of them doesn't handle it well, or when one of them eventually replaces one or more of the Head DJs, the people below will be considered.
But ******** to someone 'aaaah I can't believe I didn't get picked I so deserved that' doesn't actually help anyone's case, and makes us see you (not directing at anyone in particular but I'm sure they'll know who they are) as more after the power than anything else. Trust me, if you're done a good job as DJ, we've noted it for the future!
uhm what now? How would you know we didn't consider him :S there were plently of people who had the experience but we didn't choose them so perhaps you should try knowing the facts before actually saying something you actually know nothing about :).Quote:
Originally Posted by XxZammyXx
I think I know how the hxl are well quite a few. We all have our opinions on people remember that James :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Despect
I am not saying you are not doing your job right because you are James don't think me wrong here darling. x you are doing fab x
ok since nobody is going togive me access to data can i ask
what is minimum dj slot requirement per dj
how many djs are posted away the moment and how long do people on average post away for
You are not a manager though and you have NO idea whatsoever, what was discussed and why we put up the people we did. So actually you can't say omg you didn't consider him when you clearly have no idea at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by XxZammyXx
@Kyle; - 3 slots a week & I think only about 5 DJs are posted away, the online hours are actually improving each week :).
things starting to get spicy
Why tell me I am not manager and I have no idea??? I know I ain't manager so nothing new you are telling me here James....lol I am not against this Senior DJ thing at all and I know it will help but just I still see a few working as hard as them but they need to shine bright as well and not being noticeable.. anyways I am not here how to do your job, it is your choice but it always reflect after when you do a decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Despect
I always respected you James and always will
a steady improvement over a period of time or sporadically improving and then dropping based on dj numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Despect
what do you think is contributing to these improvements?
But you clearly just said we didn't consider him so I fail to see how you actually know we didn't consider him? unless you are somehow a secret general manager that no-one knows about? I put up people because I feel they deserve it.. that isn't saying other people don't deserve it but I put up those who I feel are more suitable. Like I said there were a lot of people who have experience but they didn't get put up.Quote:
Originally Posted by XxZammyXx
@Kyle; - I'd say we have a pretty dedicated team who enjoy what they are doing so they are always keeping the radio online, I mean we went from like 10 people not meeting minimums to now only about 4.
No I am not a secret General Manager I am just sharing my thoughts about it. I do not care who is on the senior Team or Head DJ team just saying my opinion no need to climb the walls over it. Do whatever you want James , do what is best but just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Despect
LOL i'm sorry you just said you don't care who is on the Senior DJ/Head DJ team yet you were complaining that Sam wasn't "considered"...Quote:
Originally Posted by XxZammyXx
I'm so lost what's even going on in this argument what are you actually saying Rachel?
I know when I gave James my recommendations I considered EVERY DJ I've ever listened to/interacted with on their pros and cons!
Just it was my opinion and an opinion stays an opinion. I am not bothering saying anything else in this thread after this post . I have nothing against hxl and their choices really but expect others opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Despect
And I am not arguing if you think it is lol
Rachel, i would never be considered lmao. thats not why i was moaning tho :L I didn't say anything about that.
I just think the role is no longer needed. Especially with 2 of those who have it, when they don't do anything anyway. but ok.
on the other side, a very good choice with the other 2. I won't name names because I don't want to upset anyone, but if management would like to know, pls do Skype me.
I think it's a good role, Not just saying it because I am one, but because in my opinion, It can help out head DJs quite a bit too with some of their minimums and can be helpful. I Was never at habbox when senior was actually here so it is quite new to me, & It was taken away for a reason, But it has also been brought back for a reason too :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Chug!
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Originally Posted by Chug!
Yeah I know you weren't talking about that but just you are working hard and deserve it as much as others deserve it! :) :P
who is tasked with reviewing the shows of the seniors/heads so that they can improve?
That should be the HabboxLive Manager(s) tasks. Unless this has changed just recently?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
TOTALLY AGREE WITH UQuote:
Originally Posted by lawrawrrr
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