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An interesting test here, thought I would post as a lot of people always say they are depressed as an off the cuff remark.. but how true is that is the question? I don't actually regard depression as an illness, just a normal human emotion aka sadness that we go through periods with or many years with. Some can deal with it, others can't. IMHO anyway.
Take the test here: http://www.depressedtest.com/ and post your results, it's only like a page and a half of quick questions.
You?
Major Depression: Slight-Moderate
Dysthymia: Moderate
Bipolar Disorder: Very Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
I wouldn't say I had depression. Not in a very ideal situation with unemployment and the process you have to go through with that. Some of my symptoms that make that say I'm moderate seem to be cos I like junk food and find it difficult to sleep straightaway, which I wouldn't really attribute to me feeling depressed tbh and more to do with me being a fussy eater and staying on the computer til late.
Major Depression: Slight-Moderate
Dysthymia: High
Bipolar Disorder: Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Moderate
Postpartum Depression: Very Slight
http://www.depressedtest.com/
I don't think all this is correct but the bipolar bit my mum and uncle have
Major Depression: Slight Dysthymia: Moderate Bipolar Disorder: Very High Cyclothymia: Extremely High Seasonal Affective Disorder: High Postpartum Depression: N/A
oh erm yeah? My mums suffered with depression since she was 10 (now 51) but I don't know anyone in my family with bipolar
Major Depression: Slight-Moderate Dysthymia: Slight Bipolar Disorder: Slight-Moderate Cyclothymia: High Seasonal Affective Disorder: High Postpartum Depression: N/A
Major Depression: Very Slight
Dysthymia: Very Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Very Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
I don't feel depressed so I guess it's mostly right.
Major Depression: Extremely High
Dysthymia: High
Bipolar Disorder: Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
http://www.depressedtest.com/
Slight Seasonal Disorder, very slight everything else.
Yeah, didn't think I was depressed lol
Major Depression: Very High Dysthymia: High-Moderate Bipolar Disorder: Moderate Cyclothymia: High-Moderate Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very Slight Postpartum Depression: N/A
Major Depression: Slight
Dysthymia: Moderate
Bipolar Disorder: Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Moderate
Postpartum Depression: N/A
Major Depression: Slight-Moderate
Dysthymia: Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Extremely High
Cyclothymia: High
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight-Moderate
Postpartum Depression: N/A
Major Depression: Very Slight
Dysthymia: Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Very Slight
Cyclothymia: Very Slight
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
http://www.depressedtest.com/
i think this is ok but i dont think the results are 100% correct and they only say very because a death in the family and i like fastfood like wtf who doesnt
Major Depression: Very Slight
Dysthymia: Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
Major Depression: Very Slight
Dysthymia: Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Moderate
Cyclothymia: High-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight-Moderate
Postpartum Depression: N/A
don't understand but doesnt look too bad x
Major Depression: Slight
Dysthymia: Slight
Bipolar Disorder: High
Cyclothymia: Extremely High
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
lol
Major Depression: Slight-Moderate
Dysthymia: Moderate
Bipolar Disorder: Slight
Cyclothymia: Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very High
Postpartum Depression: N/A
Did this test like almost a year ago it's weird how results have changed
idek what dysthymia or cyclothymia is
doesnt surprise me in the slightest, i was diagnosed with clinical depression and borderline bipolar. a dr said i had sads as im always needing help the most during the winter months, it really affects people as you don't get as much vitamin d as you do in the summer. im not sure what dysthymia is but i expected this type of result as ive been under the crisis team and been threatened with being sectioned, mental health problems run in my family, my mum has mental health problems and shes been sectioned too
Major Depression: High
Dysthymia: High
Bipolar Disorder: Extremely High
Cyclothymia: Extremely High
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very High
Postpartum Depression: N/A
http://www.depressedtest.com/
totes scientific tests
Major Depression: High-Moderate
Dysthymia: High
Bipolar Disorder: High
Cyclothymia: High-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: High
Postpartum Depression: N/A
i knew this anyway but yeah
don't be worried if you get a high result or anything though, so many psuedo-scientific arbitrary "questions" just perpetuate fear + self diagnosis which can be bad at time (although can also lead to actually getting checked!!)
if you're worried, go see someone, please x
Here's mine apparently:
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Major Depression: Slight
Dysthymia: Moderate
Bipolar Disorder: Very Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Moderate
Postpartum Depression: N/A
Wow, what a stupid thing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Major Depression: Slight
Dysthymia: Very Slight
Bipolar Disorder: Very Slight
Cyclothymia: Slight-Moderate
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Very Slight
Postpartum Depression: N/A
what do you expect from him really?Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Sometimes I think whether he's just been trolling the forum all these years *REMOVED*
Edited by Nick (Assistant Forum Manager): Please don't be rude towards others.
Mine according to this dodgy internet test...
I prefer the notion of personal responsibility rather than blaming all my problems on everything other than myself. If things are out of our control but there's nothing we can do, then you just live with it and get on with it. Self-pity is one of the worst things you can fall into.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Everytime you say something nasty, and you never get a reply from me because i'm not arsed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephenwhat do you expect from him really?
Sometimes I think whether he's just been trolling the forum all these years *REMOVED*
You're the literal definition of a troll my friend. And many other things, but I couldn't post them.
Major Depression: High-Moderate
Dysthymia: Slight-Moderate
Bipolar Disorder: Extremely High
Cyclothymia: Very High
Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight-Moderate
Postpartum Depression: N/A
fab
Disorder Your Score Major Depression: Extremely High Dysthymia: High-Moderate Bipolar Disorder: Slight-Moderate Cyclothymia: High-Moderate Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight-Moderate Postpartum Depression: N/A
lovely
Dan once again thinking he knows better than countless experts in their chosen field. You really are delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
"I don't believe in schizophrenia. I think some people just can't handle their thoughts as well as others"
"I don't believe in cancer, I think some people are just more healthy than others"
That's how stupid you sound.
Do you really expect any better?Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
*REMOVED*
I agree with the undertaker
Can we have a forum debate about it I love those
~~from phone
Disorder Your Score Major Depression: High Dysthymia: Slight Bipolar Disorder: Very High Cyclothymia: Extremely High Seasonal Affective Disorder: Slight-Moderate Postpartum Depression: N/A Take the Depression Test
You mean like you did over drugs when somebody directly quoted the NHS experts on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Funny that, isn't it. Believe it or not, experts are often wrong.
My point is simply that classifying different things as diseases/disorders when they're entirely natural isn't always the correct answer. Whether we like it or not, some people actually are evil. Some children are just naughty. Some people are just more sad than others. The answer isn't always to pumpt them full of drugs and send them to a government shrink every few weeks.Quote:
"We have not overthrown the divine right of kings to fall down for the divine right of experts." - Earl of Stockton, Harold MacMillan
See my point on this video. What is/isn't a mental disorder by the 'experts' is simply a moral code.
I remember being ripped on this forum, probably by you too, over saying the Euro was a ticking timebomb and wouldn't work: I was showered with abuse and slime yet turned out to be 100% spot on. I remember warning of Islamic child abuse taking place in our cities, yet because the BBC wasn't talking about it I was accused of making waycist claims without evidence: until an official report proved me correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
My track record is pretty good.
Nope, I didn't say the nhs was wrong about an illness? Of course driving whilst stoned is dangerous, but that itself doesn't make weed dangerous, the combination of the two does or can you not mentally comprehend that? Literally not even a comparison, try harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Being depressed to the point where you kill yourself isn't natural, you're an idiot. You seem to think you know better than experts that have devoted their entire lives studying that field, it's laughable. 90+% of peer reviewed scientists are wrong about climate change according to you, and now you know better than those working for the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders? Delusional.Quote:
My point is simply that classifying different things as diseases/disorders when they're entirely natural isn't always the correct answer. Whether we like it or not, some people actually are evil. Some children are just naughty. Some people are just more sad than others. The answer isn't always to pumpt them full of drugs and send them to a government shrink every few weeks.
I remember you disputing something somebody had posted concerning the danger of illegal drugs, despite it being pointed out that it came directly from the NHS website (and the NHS and experts can't be wrong in the slightest, can they?) and it made me laugh to myself at the time because when I dispute something likeQuote:
Originally Posted by djclune
global warmingclimate change you go absoutely crackers and say that my opinion isn't valid because the majority of experts hold a certain view.
Just like the majority of experts and those in science held the view in the 1920s and 1930s that disabled people and children were unworthy of life with the eugenics movement, or that homosexuality (one of your favourite pet causes on the left) was a disorder as late as the 1970s and thus performed castrations and electric shock therapy as late as the 1960s and 1970s in the western world. Just like the majority of experts held in the 2000s that if Britain didn't join the Eurozone it'd be a disaster. Just as the experts in the 1990s forced us into joining the ERM which was a disaster. Or how the experts had soldiers stand in the way of a nuclear blast in Pacific Ocean nuclear blast testing in the 1950s and 1960s.
But experts are always right. Yep.
As above.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
The fact is that most people with depression or whatever else have no control over it. They don't choose to have it. It is not merely an emotion, you cannot compare depression to sadness, anger or whatever else. They're nothing alike.
Whatever you class depression as, most of the time it is not the person's fault and nor can it be described simply as an emotion.
Come on, find this quote of me saying the NHS is wrong about the classification of an illness...Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
You seem to be confusing an illness/disease with an ideology/opinion. The two are very different, one can be proven through study and is therefore fact, the other is a belief.Quote:
Just like the majority of experts and those in science held the view in the 1920s and 1930s that disabled people and children were unworthy of life
Yeah, when new facts come to light the old facts are changed. That's the beauty of science, they're not afraid to admit when they're wrong. Those facts have been changed because of new discoveries whereas you've literally just woke up one morning and gone "you know what, I don't think depressions real" based on absolutely nothing, that's the difference here, ones been studied for years and there are actual reasons for why its classified as a disorder, your reasoning amount to nothing more than "WELL DIFFERENT PEOPLE WERE WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO SO THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE WRONG ABOUT THIS NOW!!". Absolute nonsense.Quote:
or that homosexuality (one of your favourite pet causes on the left) was a disorder as late as the 1970s and thus performed castrations and electric shock therapy as late as the 1960s and 1970s in the western world.
Ah, now we're talking about predicting things as opposed to actually studying something which can be observed, gotcha...Quote:
Just like the majority of experts held in the 2000s that if Britain didn't join the Eurozone it'd be a disaster. Just as the experts in the 1990s forced us into joining the ERM which was a disaster.
Nope, experts aren't infallible and as technology advances things that were considered fact are often proven wrong but that doesn't mean we should blindly not trust what we're told is fact now unless we have reason not to and unfortunately some people from the 1920's thinking disabled people are subhuman isn't reason to argue that the classification of mental illnesses are wrong today.Quote:
But experts are always right. Yep.
Didn't argue it was the fault of the person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk,
In terms of emotion though, why not? Even if it is a rare chemical inbalance, why does that declassify it as a feeling? It remains such.
I haven't got it, but you said something along those lines because you didn't like what the NHS and the experts had to say on drugs probably because you hold the view that drugs should be decriminalised which again is funny considering how much of a zealot you are when it comes to smoking.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Actually no, that is what I am arguing against. As the video I posted before explained, what is an illness or what isn't an illness is very hard to define because you could argue that homosexuality is a disorder (which I would still hold to, but which the experts changed opinion on in the 1970s) or you could argue that it isn't. The fact is that most of these classifications, as the video explains, are simply a moral book of guidelines that changes with the times depending on the moral code of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Which is personally why I prefer the Bible and religious texts, but yeah.
Well actually, yeah - that's completely right. You're asking us to believe 100% in the mainstream expert view, yet it's often turned out to be completely wrong or incredibly dangerous.... which proves to me in a bigger picture that science cannot provide a moral code for humanity to abide by, which is why I moved from an atheist to religious.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
If a field has a track record in getting things wrong, you don't blindly put your faith in it.
Just like how the experts predictions aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by djclune
global warmingclimate change have all turned out to be scaremongering rubbish, yep.
Haven't argued that.Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
Just warning that pumping a population full of drugs and making excuses for the bad things that happen in life (some of which are our fault, some of which are not our fault but simply a part of life itself) should at least be treated with some scepticism.
Major Depression: Slight Dysthymia: Slight-Moderate Bipolar Disorder: Moderate Cyclothymia: High Seasonal Affective Disorder: Moderate Postpartum Depression: N/A
Um, okay? xd
Can't argue with the delusional. Dan have you got any evidence that disproves depression? (besides other experts being wrong in the past about other things)Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
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Oh, and here's what I wrote about the NHS
Nowhere do I say they are wrong about an illness?Quote:
Originally Posted by djclune
holy crap undertaker is just impossible :S
I would love to see a new comedy show on tv
undertaker's opinions vs the world
high in everything. very high in bi polar and extreme in major depression
nothing I didn't know