Why is there separate posting comps?

Why is there separate posting comp for staff / regular users? it just seems pointless, they're still getting the same incentive if you just did an overall competition for the forum :S

i thought @Intersocial; said there wasn't a competition specifically for staff, just a scheme to show them how many posts they've made.

In feedback users said that I need to be encouraging staff to post so I am :P

Also, it's not really a competition as such. I just post the stats for each department and give the top posters of each dept 50 tokens

I can't see anywhere in the main post of staff stats about them getting prizes, it's lit. just to show which departments are doing better than others etc I THINK

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Originally Posted by Phil

In feedback users said that I need to be encouraging staff to post so I am :P

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So there is separate competitions?

but those who are top in the department (not the dept. manager) received 50 tokens.

It should be one competition not multiple tbh.

So if you're giving them tokens for just being amongst the highest, regular should get it too.

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Originally Posted by scottish

It should be one competition not multiple tbh.

So if you're giving them tokens for just being amongst the highest, regular should get it too.

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Pretty much this :P I'm all for activity on the forum, I'm not shooting that down, fair play for trying but there's 141 people in the posting scheme thread, is there really a need for two comps?

So at the moment there's:
Staff posting competition
Staff/Regular user posting competition


@Phil; ?

Soz was on the phone!!

I don't really see the staff one as a competition. The prize is only 50 Tokens to thank them for their efforts. While I hope it will encourage staff to post a bit, it also shows managers who is posting and who isn't and hopefully they're promoting posting within their respective departments. I have absolutely no intention of removing this for staff members and I have no intention for adding a smaller prize to the overall forum statistics.

Scott you mentioned "regular should get it too" and I disagree because if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100

Also @Richie; how did you know there was one for staff?

Why don't you just reward the top 3 posters each week @Phil;
Or reward the top 3 posters as long as they make over, say, 50 posts? That would promote competition among users whereas the current one is just a bit too difficult imo.

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Originally Posted by Phil

Soz was on the phone!!

I don't really see the staff one as a competition. The prize is only 50 Tokens to thank them for their efforts. While I hope it will encourage staff to post a bit, it also shows managers who is posting and who isn't and hopefully they're promoting posting within their respective departments. I have absolutely no intention of removing this for staff members and I have no intention for adding a smaller prize to the overall forum statistics.

Scott you mentioned "regular should get it too" and I disagree because if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100

Also @Richie; how did you know there was one for staff?

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So basically we're having the same competition, but staff members are getting rewarded for less effort, and regular users are being forced to hit high caps (lets be honest 100 is fairly high considering the activity these days) or no rewards

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Originally Posted by Phil

Soz was on the phone!!

I don't really see the staff one as a competition. The prize is only 50 Tokens to thank them for their efforts. While I hope it will encourage staff to post a bit, it also shows managers who is posting and who isn't and hopefully they're promoting posting within their respective departments. I have absolutely no intention of removing this for staff members and I have no intention for adding a smaller prize to the overall forum statistics.

Scott you mentioned "regular should get it too" and I disagree because if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100

Also @Richie; how did you know there was one for staff?

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So basically we're having the same competition, but staff members are getting rewarded for less effort, and regular users are being forced to hit high caps (lets be honest 100 is fairly high considering the activity these days) or no rewards

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Originally Posted by Empired

Why don't you just reward the top 3 posters each week @Phil;
Or reward the top 3 posters as long as they make over, say, 50 posts? That would promote competition among users whereas the current one is just a bit too difficult imo.

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If I reward the top three they will start getting lower and lower. I don't think we need to lower the limit, it's very possible to hit. I don't think the prize or the limit is the problem at the moment. The only thing making this difficult to hit is the activity on the forum at the moment and for the past while. Only a few months ago it would be rare to get a week where someone didn't hit it so it is very possible to hit so long as the activity is there and people are getting involved.

The reward for staff is only 50 Tokens, it's not like they are being awarded VIP or anything. To even get 1 Week of VIP (which isn't even an option in the sop) from this they'll need to be top for 20 Weeks

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Originally Posted by Phil

Soz was on the phone!!

I don't really see the staff one as a competition. The prize is only 50 Tokens to thank them for their efforts. While I hope it will encourage staff to post a bit, it also shows managers who is posting and who isn't and hopefully they're promoting posting within their respective departments. I have absolutely no intention of removing this for staff members and I have no intention for adding a smaller prize to the overall forum statistics.

Scott you mentioned "regular should get it too" and I disagree because if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100

Also @Richie; how did you know there was one for staff?

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1) Everyone contributes to the forum, everyone should be rewarded for their effort.
2) What makes this any different to the staff competition?
3) You posted it publicly

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Originally Posted by Richie

1) Everyone contributes to the forum, everyone's efforts should be rewarded.
2) What makes this any different to the staff competition?
3) You posted it publicly

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1. They are.
2. Staff one isn't a competition.
3. No I didn't, I just selected the wrong thing on the drop down menu :P I haven't even done the one for this week yet :P

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Originally Posted by Phil

1. They are.
2. Staff one isn't a competition.
3. No I didn't, I just selected the wrong thing on the drop down menu :P I haven't even done the one for this week yet :P

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If you're rewarding the top posters of each department, then it is a competition :P

Well if I don't it's just pointless doing it :P

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Originally Posted by Phil

Well if I don't it's just pointless doing it :P

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i think that's what they're trying to say

So whether the intention was for it being a competition or not, it's a competition now :P

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Originally Posted by Empired

i think that's what they're trying to say

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They're trying to say it's unfair I believe

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Originally Posted by Phil

1. They are.
2. Staff one isn't a competition.
3. No I didn't, I just selected the wrong thing on the drop down menu :P I haven't even done the one for this week yet :P

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So how does it work? which people in the staff posting statistics receive tokens? Is vip offered to winners / any other incentives?


I don't know what tokens are / how to earn them neway so idc bout that its just the principal behind it, there's no need to have separate competitions or whatever you want to call it even if it is just for 50tokens, everyone has an equal chance of becoming one of the top 3 posters.

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Originally Posted by Richie

So how does it work? which people in the staff posting statistics receive tokens? Is vip offered to winners / any other incentives?

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This is literally what I post after the main post:

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Originally Posted by Phil

Congratulations to the following who have won 50 Tokens for being at the top of their Departments:

Ripieno - Habbox Live, Articles
Wubing - Habbox Help Desk, Values Staff
mdport. - Forum Moderation
bikini - Content, Events
Intersocial - Graphics, Competitions

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So give top 10 people 50 tokens each

Sorted.

Are you lot actually stressing over 50 tokens or are you trying to get up post count for next week?

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Originally Posted by Phil

Are you lot actually stressing over 50 tokens or are you trying to get up post count for next week?

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bit of both lol jk

Again, I don't know what tokens are / how to earn them neway so idc bout that its just the principle behind it, there's no need to have separate competitions or whatever you want to call it even if it is just for 50tokens, everyone has an equal chance of becoming one of the top 3 posters.

I'm with @Richie; it's the principle not the reward :P

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Originally Posted by scottish

So basically we're having the same competition, but staff members are getting rewarded for less effort, and regular users are being forced to hit high caps (lets be honest 100 is fairly high considering the activity these days) or no rewards

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I don't think anyone is forcing you to post...

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Originally Posted by bikini

I don't think anyone is forcing you to post...

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I think he means if staff want to earn a prize it's easy for them to get, but if a user wants to win a prize for doing the same thing they have to work bloody hard.

it's like telling one person to jump for £10 and another person to run a half marathon for £10

Nah ye just want a handy way to get to 100, this is a decoy ;)

No but seriously, I don't currently intend to do that because of what I said earlier: "if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100"

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Originally Posted by Empired

I think he means if staff want to earn a prize it's easy for them to get, but if a user wants to win a prize for doing the same thing they have to work bloody hard.

it's like telling one person to jump for £10 and another person to run a half marathon for £10

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No it's not? The rewards are completely different.

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Originally Posted by Empired

I think he means if staff want to earn a prize it's easy for them to get, but if a user wants to win a prize for doing the same thing they have to work bloody hard.

it's like telling one person to jump for £10 and another person to run a half marathon for £10

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actually no. That comparison doesn't make sense to the current issue.

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Originally Posted by bikini

I don't think anyone is forcing you to post...

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I never said we were? Nowhere in that post does it state we are being forced, it said if we want a reward we're forced to hit a high cap.

In order to achieve a reward, you're being forced to hit a fairly high cap, where as staff can do whatever as long as they beat the other member and could end up with 8 posts in a week and get rewarded for it, then people hitting 98 posts and get 0.

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Originally Posted by bikini

actually no. That comparison doesn't make sense to the current issue.

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Doesn't it? Staff get a prize for doing something easy and normal members get a prize for doing something quite challenging. What is wrong with my comparison?

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Originally Posted by Phil

Nah ye just want a handy way to get to 100, this is a decoy ;)

No but seriously, I don't currently intend to do that because of what I said earlier: "if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100"

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No it's not? The rewards are completely different.

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I don't care about over 100 as I have like 3 years VIP and won't be on the forum for 1/6 of that time :P

So again, you're rewarding the staff for doing very little and you're giving your community members nothing for actively trying to achieve it?

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Originally Posted by Phil

"if I start dishing out smaller prizes for less efforts amongst the community, people won't be trying to hit the 100"

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just like how staff won't be putting in as much effort in competing for the 'main' competition?

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Originally Posted by Empired

Doesn't it? Staff get a prize for doing something easy and normal members get a prize for doing something quite challenging. What is wrong with my comparison?

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Nothing, (s)he just doesn't understand it apparently.

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Originally Posted by Empired

Doesn't it? Staff get a prize for doing something easy and normal members get a prize for doing something quite challenging. What is wrong with my comparison?

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There's your difference.
If we're using your comparison I would compare a body guard of the president to a normal citizen... both definitely have two different roles...

and I don't think it is "easy" as the top posters in the regular are staff as well... No one has reached 100 in a long time..

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Originally Posted by bikini

There's your difference.
If we're using your comparison I would compare a body guard of the president to a normal citizen... both definitely have two different roles...

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But the aim of the posting scheme is to encourage all members to post more. It shouldn't matter if you're staff or a normal member.

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Originally Posted by bikini

There's your difference.
If we're using your comparison I would compare a body guard of the president to a normal citizen... both definitely have two different roles...

and I don't think it is "easy" as the top posters in the regular are staff as well... No one has reached 100 in a long time..

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jump off your high horse.

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Originally Posted by Richie

I wonder which one we are.. jump off your high horse.

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interesting to see the only people backing the staff rewards are.. staff. big surprise there.

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Originally Posted by bikini

There's your difference.
If we're using your comparison I would compare a body guard of the president to a normal citizen... both definitely have two different roles...

and I don't think it is "easy" as the top posters in the regular are staff as well... No one has reached 100 in a long time..

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So you're agreeing with us, the staff are getting easier rewards (especially in some depts which have like 3 members) and no normal member has reached 100 in a long time.

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Originally Posted by scottish

Nothing, (s)he just doesn't understand it apparently.

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lol. "(s)he" understands it very well. I just think that the comparison of the two is incorrect of the current situation.