Prime Minister Boris Johnson has stepped down. He will make a statement later today but is expected to remain in power till Autumn when a new leader for the Conservative party can be appointed.
What are your thoughts?
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson has stepped down. He will make a statement later today but is expected to remain in power till Autumn when a new leader for the Conservative party can be appointed.
What are your thoughts?
My sense is that the Conservative and Unionist Party has made a fatal mistake and will pay heavily for this. There's no doubt Boris Johnson was the most successful Conservative politician of the 2010s, and won the Tories their largest majority since 1987. Whether you like him or not, he was an extremely successful politician winning the London mayoralty twice, the EU referendum of 2016 and then going on to win in 2019 in places no other Tory could reach and solving the Brexit deadlock.
He's been brought down yes by his own faults, which I believe started when he wrongly sacked Dominic Cummings, but more so by internal politics in the Conservative Party itself. It's no secret that the David Cameron, George Osborne, Theresa May and Jeremy Hunt wing of the party has never liked Boris, and have hated him since he swept them away with the EU referendum. He is a politician unlike them, able to reach voters the Tory Party struggles to reach - he's a modern day Benjamin Disraeli as Dr David Starkey has accurately said.
I am able to vote in the coming leadership election as I am a member of the Conservative Party, and here's my assessment of the assumed candidates. If the party opts - as I think they will - to put in place another left-wing liberal like David Cameron, or a weakling like Theresa May, then they'll have lost my vote at the next General Election.
Mordaunt - Backed Hunt.
— Daniel (@PritaniDan) July 7, 2022
Wallace - Tweeted support for BLM.
Tugendhat - Obsessed with Russia.
Hunt - Mr Remain/Lockdown.
Zahawi - Backstabbing creep.
Ellwood - Remainer, obsessed with Russia.
That leaves only Baker, Braverman, Patel, Truss and possibly Sunak.
As long as the new ones would not change the law too much then I'm fine with it...
I remember I was so confuse with Brexit when they left EU. It make me confuse whether I choose the right path in taking EU Law or not.
I think this clip with what I assume are first-time Conservative voters in the north pretty much sum up the huge mistake the Tory Party have just made.
Following Boris Johnson's resignation as PM, @GregMilamSky spoke to three people in Bolton who voted for the Conservatives at the last election.
— Sky News (@SkyNews) July 7, 2022
Politics live: https://t.co/ZTbv6x8cal pic.twitter.com/xpyTbEWGGsI'm sure once the amazingly charismatic Ben Wallace/Tom Tugendhat/Jeremy Hunt takes over, voters will be crawling over broken glass to vote Conservative again... https://t.co/7Kmu9NG3Jx
— Daniel (@PritaniDan) July 8, 2022
Tories in freefall. Likely down to people like myself who will now be withdrawing support/sceptical that they will bother at the next GE.
A month ago the Tories were behind in the polls, but if you had asked me what I thought the likely outcome of a General Election would be in a year or so, I would have said the Conservatives will remain in power after the polls narrow with a reduced majority. Now though? We're looking at a Labour landslide on these figures.
Hahaha. Well I'm sure Penny Mordaunt will be able to turn this around when she informs us all that a man who has his penis removed is actually a woman. https://t.co/IYZdx7caRT
— Daniel (@PritaniDan) July 8, 2022
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
The reason Tories were behind in the polls is Boris.
Well of those who have declared so far I have pretty much made up my mind who I can bring myself to vote for with some enthusiasm.
1. Suella Braverman
2. Kemi Badenoch
3. Liz Truss
If Priti Patel stands then she's also very likely to get my vote.
The worst candidates standing in my view are, in order of worse to least worst; Jeremy Hunt, Tom Tugendhat, Penny Mordaunt, Sajid Javid and Nadim Zahawi.
It's normal for any government to be behind in the polls mid-term. The point is the margin by which they are behind. For all the problems of the government and the Prime Minister, the gap between Labour and the Tories was actually quite small, which is why my suspicion is that it would have been possible - not certain - that they could close the gap when a General Election came around. That's what usually happens - have a look at the mid-term polling for 2013 for a comparison where David Cameron was much further behind yet won in 2015. Since deposing the PM, the Tories have crashed to what is essentially their base support (30%).Quote:
Originally Posted by Seatherny
NEW: Suella Braverman is now calling for Britain to leave the European Convention on Human Rights. A new wedge issue opens in the Tory contest
— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) July 10, 2022
#Suella4PM
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Tories were behind in the polls as Boris thought he could party while telling others to sit at home. Tories were behind in the polls as Boris thought he could employ anyone and it will be OK due to his large win. People expect morals and high standards from a leader. Boris has neither.
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
" bring myself to vote for with some enthusiasm.
... Liz Truss"
Thanks for proving your utter and complete incompetence yet again. You never fail to be proved wrong. Lesson for anyone reading: Do the opposite of what this man says as he is always wrong.
@Seatherny;
The Tory Party is in a total self-inflicted mess, not sure what else you want me to say.
Because people like you keep supporting clowns like Liz TrussQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Who said I was voting Conservative at the next election?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seatherny
Well you proudly voted for Liz Truss in the leadership election. This itself shows how incompetent you really are. Actually I remember how excited you were to say you have voted for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Your voted for clown party UKIP, they lost all seats
You voted for Liz Truss, she is a failure
You seem to have a habit of voting for failure
I literally wrote at the start of this thread, and I quote;Quote:
Originally Posted by Seatherny
And I think my judgement has been proven spot on again in all that has happened since he was deposed. As critical as I was of Boris, I pointed out that the party was only 6% of so behind the opposition and that MPs were fools to have moved against a PM who won a huge majority. We're now 30% behind in the polls. I did vote for Truss in a two-way contest yes, but as a way of blocking Rishi Sunak who would've been even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me, 1 page before
Here's my next prediction - installing Hunt as Chancellor is a disaster, and the prospect of Sunak/Mordaunt/Wallace as PM will sink the party even further.
Not that voting is about having voted for the winner, but let's just examine what you've said. Green = Won, Red = Lost, Grey = Neutral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seatherny
2011 Voting system referendum - I spoilt my ballot
2014 European Elections won by Ukip - I voted Ukip
2015 General Election won by the Conservatives - I voted Ukip (but pressured the Tories into a referendum)
2016 EU referendum won by Leave - I voted Leave
2017 General Election won by Conservatives - I voted Conservative
2019 European Elections won by Brexit Party - I vote Brexit Party
2019 General Election won by the Conservatives - I voted Conservative
So the one time I actually voted for the losing side, I actually got what I wanted anyway by applying pressure.
You may disagree with my choices, but you can't claim I am out of touch with political reality. Now do yours. :)