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    Default Brown refuses snap election and admits Labour would lose

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    Gordon Brown slipped up today by claiming a snap General Election would cause chaos because the Conservatives might win.

    The Tory leader immediately jumped on the gaffe, in a fiery Prime Minister's Questions, proclaiming it an admission he would lose if he went to the country.

    David Cameron insists the only way to draw a line under the expenses scandal is to dissolve Parliament and hold a General Election now.

    But Mr Brown claimed this morning that would be 'chaos' at a time when Britain is battling a deep recession and the country is reeling from the expenses row.


    In a blitz of media interviews, he said: 'Do you really want to see tomorrow, in the midst of a recession, while the Government is dealing with this, the chaos of an election?

    'There will be an appropriate time to have an election, but at the moment I think people want us to get on, and get on with the job.'

    Pressed what he meant in the Commons, he declared: 'What would cause chaos would be if a Conservative government was elected.'

    The House erupted at the comment, to which Mr Cameron joyfully replied: 'So there we have it - the first admission he thinks he's going to lose.'

    He added: 'I know the Prime Minister is frightened of elections but how can he believe that in the fourth year of a Parliament, in one of the oldest democracies in the world, that a general election could bring chaos? Have another go at a better answer.'

    Mr Brown eventually claimed Tory plans for public spending cuts would cause chaos in terms of the UK's recovery from recession.


    Do you think Brown can hang on to the next General Election or do you think he will be ousted by Labour MP's such as Hazel Blears and so forth. Apparently Labour are on their lowest polling in history.

    As a Conservative supporter I personally hope he hangs on and makes sure that Labour will not come into grasp of power for many years to come.
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    He's like an injured dog now, he refuses to back down but we all know, including professionals, that he should be taken round back and shot.

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    I'd rather have Gordon Brown running the country than Cameron. I just find him really hypocritical trying to be "hip" when he has evidently had a secure middle class upbringing. I suppose he went to a public school too. It annoys me that he tries to create the image that the "ordinary" man would vote for him when in reality his policies would benefit the middle class rather than the working anyway.

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    I think if there's any chance of him being ousted by labour it'll be after the european elections, everyone's waiting out for that. It depends if Labour does badly or very badly. If he does very badly I can see a rebellion forming within the party but probably never enough people to actually get rid of him.

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    My opinion comes from the limited knowledge I have of politics and political parties so don't shoot me, lol. Just my two cents for what they're worth.

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    Labour ftw, and lol at david cameron

    What annoys me though is the likes of such parties like UKIP, convervatives etc saying "oh you made the recession worse" etc and people in the UK are generally idiots and don't know nothing about the economy, so if labour does lose it'll be due to the recession, which UKIP and any other party i very much doubt would have handled as well/any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    I'd rather have Gordon Brown running the country than Cameron. I just find him really hypocritical trying to be "hip" when he has evidently had a secure middle class upbringing. I suppose he went to a public school too. It annoys me that he tries to create the image that the "ordinary" man would vote for him when in reality his policies would benefit the middle class rather than the working anyway.
    The class war cannot be used anymore, theres no such thing as certain parties for the working class or middle class. We have seen this week, Labour MP's are just as bad as some Conservative MP's, if not worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKIP View Post
    The class war cannot be used anymore, theres no such thing as certain parties for the working class or middle class. We have seen this week, Labour MP's are just as bad as some Conservative MP's, if not worse.
    It sort of goes to show you how little knowledge is around for politics though. They don't tell you alot to be honest, like, what does this £40 million a day to the EU actually do and what are the advantages. Parties tend to just shout hatred about certain things yet give very little reasoning to back them up (they only go against them, rather than for them, and with very little reason shown).

    It's one thing I've noticed lately, people are going by what they see, rather than do any research because, why should they? They should be told what each things does, not in great detail, but enough to make people not in the know, know

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    I think good on Gordon Brown. It's sensible politics. If there were to be an election now people would be voting off the back of a scandal and the uneducated voter would vote based on headlines and soundbites rather than actual policy.

    I also think it is economically wise to not call an election as they cost millions. I think right now Gordon Brown needs to be/needs to do:

    -Stronger and tougher
    -A Cabinet reshuffle... LONG overdue
    -Discuss more Labour policy
    -Be more open

    I think he seems to be hiding away and only responding when there is lots of pressue. We need the Iron Chancellor back, not somebody who won't lead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scottish View Post
    Labour ftw, and lol at david cameron

    What annoys me though is the likes of such parties like UKIP, convervatives etc saying "oh you made the recession worse" etc and people in the UK are generally idiots and don't know nothing about the economy, so if labour does lose it'll be due to the recession, which UKIP and any other party i very much doubt would have handled as well/any better.
    Anyone with economic competance, such as the people who run business and pay mortages in this country know perfectly well you don't overspend, this is were, yet again, Labour have tripped up.

    YES it is a world recession, YES it was unavoidable, but i'm afraid inheriting one of the best balance sheets this country has had from when the Conservatives left office to spending and spending our way into debt and not saving money for a rainy day, not to mention the disasterous decision the man took with selling our gold while it was at a 25 year low and not only that, but told gold markets a week before he was planning to sell which sent gold prices plummetting in value - them decisions have no excuse, he was far from the economic miracle he was made out to be, as shown with his refusal to cut spending.

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    It sort of goes to show you how little knowledge is around for politics though. They don't tell you alot to be honest, like, what does this £40 million a day to the EU actually do and what are the advantages. Parties tend to just shout hatred about certain things yet give very little reasoning to back them up (they only go against them, rather than for them, and with very little reason shown).

    It's one thing I've noticed lately, people are going by what they see, rather than do any research because, why should they? They should be told what each things does, not in great detail, but enough to make people not in the know, know
    Parties very rarely tell you why they they are for or against things, or even what their policy is, your correct. Just look at the Labour 2005 manifesto in which we were promised a referendum on EU reforms - ended up in the shredder just like Tony Blairs expenses documents.

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