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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tion-laws.html

    THE British National Party yesterday caved in to pressure to admit non-white members, after being threatened with expensive court action. BNP leader Nick Griffin agreed to use 'all reasonable endeavours' to revise the party's constitution so it does not discriminate on the grounds of race, gender or religious belief.

    The party currently states all members be of 'indigenous caucasian' origin. Mr Griffin's climbdown, after warning his party faced potentially crippling legal bills if it fought the case, was part of an order issued at the Central London County Court yesterday.

    It is a significant stage in legal proceedings brought by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. If Mr Griffin fails to convince the rest of his party, the case will come back to court. The court heard a revised constitution will be presented at the party's general meeting next month, with no new members allowed to join until it is in place. '


    While I do not agree with them on all counts and with this policy in general, and while I know there are thugs within the party, the thing that annoys me and the thing that gives the BNP actual support is that while the BNP are called racist for catering for white-British, we have organisations such as the ones listed below that are allowed;
    • ACLT - African Caribbean Leukaemia Trust
    • Asian Family Counselling Services
    • Asian People's Disability Alliance
    • Black Women's Rape Action Project
    • Cancer Black Care
    ..meanwhile the National Black Police Association (nbpa) states on its website that apparently (this is a good one) the word 'Black' does not refer to skin colour. It is beyond belief the hypocrisy and political correctness in this country. I wish Nick Griffin all the luck on Question Time next week, it sure will be strange (and funny) watching Jack Straw (Labour MP & Justice Minister) lecturing Nick Griffin on morals, when Jack Straw himself fiddled his own council tax.

    The Race Relations Act itself (whether or not it still stands as this) 1976, states that in Section 26 'An association to which section 25 applies is within this subsection if the main object of the association is to enable the benefits of membership (whatever they may be) to be enjoyed by persons of a particular racial group defined otherwise than by reference to colour; and in determining whether that is the main object of an association regard shall be had to the essential character of the association and to all relevant circumstances including, in particular, the extent to which the affairs of the association are so conducted that the persons primarily enjoying the benefits of membership are of the racial group in question.' - the way I interpret this, is that if a group is for the benefit of its members, it can exist.

    I just do not see how our politicians can lecture the electorate about not voting British National Party while they fiddle expenses and allow other racial groups to be set up. The fact is, that while the ruling Lib/Lab/Con take this view, then they BNP will grow in support. I believe strongly in democracy and fairness, and I think that either we should allow racial groups such as the BNP and the ones listed above, or we do not allow any racial groups. The same system should apply to everyone.

    Do you think this decision is fair, and do you think it will make the BNP more attractive to mainstream voters?

    Do you think the BNP should be allowed on Question Time next week?
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    It might make them more attractive to mainstream voters, but not by alot. Infact it won't much difference as far as how people will see them because the past would haunt them in the future, and their policies and beliefs which have caused controversy will still cause problems in the future.

    And yes, they should appear on Question Time They're the most controversial party, and probably up there with Lib Dems, Tories and Labour in terms of public image. Besides, "them" appearing on Question Time might get some answers, both good and bad

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    LOL do non-white people even want to join? I suspect there might be some self-hating mixed race people but it's otherwise pointless anyway.

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    why don't we bring back hitler from the dead?

    like it would change anything

    i hate the bnp's with everything, non-whites don't want to join the racists

    and no, they shouldn't be allowed on question time, would you let hitler onto question time?

    the nazi party and bnp seem closesly related by the fact people are turning to them with "no alternative"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    why don't we bring back hitler from the dead?

    like it would change anything

    i hate the bnp's with everything, non-whites don't want to join the racists

    and no, they shouldn't be allowed on question time, would you let hitler onto question time?

    the nazi party and bnp seem closesly related by the fact people are turning to them with "no alternative"
    The best way to have beliefs you don't like shot down is to have them out in the open and publicly opposed. Shutting them away and not letting anyone speak of it only leads to more tension and eventual uprising of an extremist view as has happened before in other countries, notably with Communism and, as you so helpfully mentioned, the Nazis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    why don't we bring back hitler from the dead?

    like it would change anything

    i hate the bnp's with everything, non-whites don't want to join the racists

    and no, they shouldn't be allowed on question time, would you let hitler onto question time?

    the nazi party and bnp seem closesly related by the fact people are turning to them with "no alternative"
    How can you compare the British National Party to Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party and the Third Reich, when you yourself support supression of free speech, just like Adolf Hitler imposed on any opposition under his rule.


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    interesting, even though a bnp spokesman has said that nothing will change if it happens. and yeah they should go on question time, if you don't give them a platform they'll go "underground".

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    How can you compare the British National Party to Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party and the Third Reich, when you yourself support supression of free speech, just like Adolf Hitler imposed on any opposition under his rule.

    because like someone said before, they got people's attention in a recession and soon turned out to be idiots.

    not a lot of difference, are you saying BNP are not bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    because like someone said before, they got people's attention in a recession and soon turned out to be idiots.

    not a lot of difference, are you saying BNP are not bad?
    I'm saying that the British National Party cannot be labelled bad for having a whites-only policy when the government, police and other organisations have racial groups.

    I am also saying that democracy should take place over your opinion or my opinion, and that therefore the BNP as a democratically elected party should be allowed to express their opinion on a license fee-funded organisation such as the BBC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    How can you compare the British National Party to Adolf Hitler, the Nazi Party and the Third Reich, when you yourself support suppression of free speech, just like Adolf Hitler imposed on any opposition under his rule.
    Like ardemax said,
    Hitler came to power when the german population was starving and suffering the effects of a recession. He channelled all the frustration and anger towards the jews and more or less everyone agreed/supported him.

    We are in a recession, there are immigration problems and the tabloid newspaper reports on Islamic extremists living a life of luxury on taxpayers money aren't doing anything to lift the public mood. People are annoyed and the BNP are offering us a solution- get rid of them.

    And if you can all remember- we fought against fascism in a world war.




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