Vaclav Klaus: 'Too late' to stop Lisbon Treaty, concedes last EU leader left to sign

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...left-sign.html

The only EU leader who has not yet signed the Lisbon reform treaty has conceded he will not be able to derail it. Czech President Vaclav Klaus's admission has paved the way for the document to become law.

The treaty has already been signed by the leaders of the other 26 EU states but had been put in doubt by Mr Klaus's last-minute objection over World War Two property claims. Some had speculated he wanted to delay signing until after a general election in Britain, in the hope the Conservatives would be victorious and call a referendum.

Mr Klaus said: 'I will not and cannot wait for the British election. They would have to hold it in the coming days or weeks.' He had demanded an opt-out to shield his country from property claims by Germans expelled after the war. The new hurdle raised concern it could require new talks and another agreement by all EU members, threatening to undo years of diplomatic work to create an acceptable treaty.

But eurosceptic Mr Klaus, an admirer of Margaret Thatcher, told newspaper Lidove Noviny that despite his opposition to the charter, it had gone too far for him to stop it. He said: 'I do not consider the Lisbon Treaty to be a good thing for Europe, for the freedom of Europe, or for the Czech Republic. 'However, the train has already travelled so fast and so far that I guess it will not be possible to stop it or turn it around, however much we would wish to.'

I wonder with what the European Union have threatend the Czech Republic with, so the question now rests with David Cameron, will he let the British people have a say on the formation of the European Superstate which already makes over 75% of British laws, or will he shy away from the issue?

Here we come President Blair.

[alexxxxx]

well he's under pressure because the democratically elected czech government want to push it through but the president wont sign. he couldn't hold out for months.

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well he's under pressure because the democratically elected czech government want to push it through but the president wont sign. he couldn't hold out for months.

The Czech government and the European Union want it pushed through because a democratic vote was awaiting in the United Kingdom, and a democratic vote on the Lisbon Treaty is the last thing the European Union want.

[alexxxxx]

The Czech government and the European Union want it pushed through because a democratic vote was awaiting in the United Kingdom, and a democratic vote on the Lisbon Treaty is the last thing the European Union want.

so, you have something against the democratically-elected government of the Czech people wanting to push through a treaty when one man (who was elected by the parliament, not the people, but only just) wants to stop it in its way? ok.

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so, you have something against the democratically-elected government of the Czech people wanting to push through a treaty when one man (who was elected by the parliament, not the people, but only just) wants to stop it in its way? ok.

Infact from what I have read, the Czech President Mr Klaus has the support of the people of the Czech Republic on holding out demanding the footnote be added to the treaty, remember the Czech people were the people who afterall we sold out to the Third Reich and later the USSR.

..besides, I am in the United Kingdom and not the Czech Republic, so if anything it shouldn't be the Czech President defending British sovereignty it should be our own Prime Minister who did promise a referendum in 2005 but went back on that promise.

Napolean failed.
Hitler failed.
Stalin failed.
Blair won.

[Jordy]

Infact from what I have read, the Czech President Mr Klaus has the support of the people of the Czech Republic on holding out demanding the footnote be added to the treaty, remember the Czech people were the people who afterall we sold out to the Third Reich and later the USSR.

..besides, I am in the United Kingdom and not the Czech Republic, so if anything it shouldn't be the Czech President defending British sovereignty it should be our own Prime Minister who did promise a referendum in 2005 but went back on that promise.

Napolean failed.
Hitler failed.
Stalin failed.
Blair won.

Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin - Brutal Dictators...
Blair - Elected by 27 Democratically Elected Governments

[alexxxxx]

The parliament represents the people and they want to push it through. to support an undemocratic process in order to, in your opinion, stop an undemocratic process in Europe, pushed through by democratically elected officials, is in my eyes incredibly hypocritical.

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Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin - Dictators...
Blair - Elected by 27 Democratically Elected Governments

Josef Stalin was elected by the Communist Party leadership, and the same with Hitler with the Nazi leadership. I admit the EU does not send millions to their deaths, but I am talking about democracy and the same governmental system that is being ushered in on us.

The parliament represents the people and they want to push it through. to support an undemocratic process in order to, in your opinion, stop an undemocratic process in Europe, pushed through by democratically elected officials, is in my eyes incredibly hypocritical.

The people are behind President Klaus, if you are so much of a supporter of democracy then why do you seem to think the British people do not deserve a vote on EU membership or the Lisbon Treaty?

[alexxxxx]

because i respect parliament. parliament represents the people and is the voice of them. referenda destroys the integrity of parliament. why should we have referenda on one treaty and not another? we might as well not bother with one.

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because i respect parliament. parliament represents the people and is the voice of them. referenda destroys the integrity of parliament. why should we have referenda on one treaty and not another? we might as well not bother with one.

..maybe because its such an important treaty on an insitution that creates over 75% of our laws, and maybe because referendums reflect public view more, meaning that when political parties make promises then back-track on them (as Labour have done on their promise in 2005) then we can still have our say on it.

If you do not agree on a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, you must surely support a referendum on EU membership?