UKIP candidate suspended over racist comments

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A senior UK Independence Party member has posted a racist comment on Community Care.

In response to a post by Community Care’s Outside Left blogger on asylum, Paul Wiffen – who is chair of UKIP London and a parliamentary candidate, said:

“You left-wing scum are all the same, wanting to hand our birthright to Romanian gypsies who beat their wives and children into begging and stealing money they can gamble with, Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law, the same Africans who sold their Afro-Caribbean brothers into a slavery that Britain was the first to abolish (but you still want to apologize for!)”

Wiffen, who is standing as an MP in Ilford South at the next election, continued: “Worry about where we are going to live and grow food, you ******, not the UKIP policy that might just save your worthless skin!”

Wiffen, who stood as an MEP for Scotland in 2009, also said: “”Britain is full, you prat! Even your scummy, illiterate Grauniad admits it! In the circumstances, I think ‘get lost’ is positively polite. ‘Go forth and multiply’ elsewhere would be my wording.”

Paul Wiffen has now been suspended as a UKIP Parliamentary candidate.

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Sorry UKIP aren't racist.

This is absolutely disgraceful tbh, just showing more of UKIP as the BNP in a pink dress with a flower in it's hair.

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Lord Pearson said that while the language that he used was “clearly unacceptable, the subject he raised should be the subject of national debate”.

So wait, even their leader wants a debate on it? How can they be racist :rolleyes:?

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So wait, even their leader wants a debate on it? How can they be racist :rolleyes:?

Immigration shouldn't be debated - are you seriously suggesting that?

As for this case, yeah he was sterotyping and thats wrong and the party took the right action. However what he did state does occur as we are fighting islamic extremism (fact), Africans did sell their brothers to the slave trade (fact) and Romanian gypsies do use their children to beg on the streets (fact). He's generalising, but hes certainly not being racist.

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Immigration shouldn't be debated - are you seriously suggesting that?

As for this case, yeah he was sterotyping and thats wrong and the party took the right action. However what he did state does occur as we are fighting islamic extremism (fact), Africans did sell their brothers to the slave trade (fact) and Romanian gypsies do use their children to beg on the streets (fact). He's generalising, but hes certainly not being racist.

Your replies are so predictable. Let me demonstrate:

Tash :] says:
*LOOL UT will reply saying "well we did the right thing, suspended him"

and you said

thats wrong and the party took the right action.

And your senior member said "(all) muslims".

To be honest:

Immigration shouldn't be debated - are you seriously suggesting that?

That isnt the same as discussing "(All) Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law" which your leader wants.

If you don't think what he said is racist then you clearly need to look up the definition of racists.

This is not racist:

White people are nutters who want to kill the whole world

NOT.

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The fact is, islam is not a race Saurav - it is a religion, you know like when people label the Catholic Church as child molesters - the same goes for this. It is generalising and pretty poor for a politician to come out with it, but it is certainly not racism and i'd suggest you go and look up the meaning of racism.

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The fact is, islam is not a race Saurav - it is a religion, you know like when people label the Catholic Church as child molesters - the same goes for this. It is generalising and pretty poor for a politician to come out with it, but it is certainly not racism and i'd suggest you go and look up the meaning of racism.

You are trying to excuse these comments on a matter of technicality relating to the word racism, if it isn't racism, it's discrimination which is equally as bad.

Racism is the belief that people of some races are inferior to others, and the behaviour which is the result of this belief.

and UKIP believe that my friend.

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All political parties have loose cannons, some recent examples, Geoff Hoon offering to influence the law for money, Conservative's Chris Graylings comments in regard to a gay couple being rejected from a B&B, Lib Dem candidate over his derogatory remarks on Twitter and now this. That's not to say it shouldn't be reported but once again, suspending him was the right thing to do, much like suspending Geoff Hoon was.

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The fact is, islam is not a race Saurav - it is a religion, you know like when people label the Catholic Church as child molesters - the same goes for this. It is generalising and pretty poor for a politician to come out with it, but it is certainly not racism and i'd suggest you go and look up the meaning of racism.

You also dodged the below:

And your senior member said "(all) muslims".

To be honest:

Immigration shouldn't be debated - are you seriously suggesting that?

That isnt the same as discussing "(All) Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law" which your leader wants.

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You are trying to excuse these comments on a matter of technicality relating to the word racism, if it isn't racism, it's discrimination which is equally as bad.

and UKIP believe that my friend.

Its a negative comment, but its not racist as you suggest as racist is discriminating based on somebodies race, a bit like the Labour Party has a candidate shortlist policy based on race or did you not know that?

Would you care to point out which UKIP policies incite racism or discrimination?

All political parties have loose cannons, some recent examples, Geoff Hoon for example, offering to influence the law for money, Conservative's Chris Graylings comments in regard to a gay couple being rejected from a B&B, Lib Dem candidate over his derogatory remarks on Twitter and now this. That's not to say it shouldn't be reported but once again, suspending him was the right thing to do, much like suspending Geoff Hoon was.

Indeed.

You also dodged the below:

And your senior member said "(all) muslims".

To be honest:

That isnt the same as discussing "(All) Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law" which your leader wants.

Where does 'our dear leader' say this?

As for the all muslims, he did not say all muslims in the quote you have provided unless you have mistakeninly quoted him, he said all left wing scum but did not say all muslims, check your quote and i'll reconsider that then as its a very stupid comment if he did say that all muslims were nutters, not that its not a generalising and petty remark anyway.