Say Whaa?

[Chippiewill]

Was it only a few days ago that I opened a thread pointing out that decisions were being rushed, and that threads were being closed when staff and decisions are put under question. I was very quickly told this was not true by several members of staff, so why is it that THIS thread has been closed? Regardless of whether the choice would have been changed there was no real basis to close that thread and is essential to prevent similar situations occurring again.

b) Management is not allowed to be criticized by users because "it's Jin's job", forum management specifically will close any thread putting members of their department under review.
The only times I can remember closing threads were when public feedback threads turned personal against a new trialist, which wasn't fair on him. Theres a complaints for for that sort of issue or PMing members of gen / forum management too.

d) Hiring of staff is being rushed, checks are not being made to ensure that the moderator applying is knowledgeable / fits all criterion.
I wouldn't say rushed either. Admittedly mistakes were made but I trusted gut instinct on that one and I stand by it, next time around I will be making sure it is fairer though. Again I apologise for this.

Admittedly it was not Jamesy's decision but THIS is a massive piss-take and I'm sure at some point he would have known the decision before it was announced and raised concerns. In fact EVERY member of Habbox Staff should have been alert not to make stupid decisions.

And despite the prior statement, he surely could have made some kind of argument against this:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=669839

Care to explain?

NB - I would like to point out that I am not (Nor is this thread) targeting the new Asst. Manager, but merely the decision to close the thread and the rushed, unfair decision. Therefore this thread is not against any rules that can be interpreted in any reasonable or fair way and cannot therefore be closed.

[xxMATTGxx]

The thread already had enough comments on who disagreed and agreed that Jordesh should of become Manager. If you didn't know already then there was another thread previous to this one in regards of Shar returning back as a Manager. Due to that thread she resigned due to pressure from the comments that were made in regards of her, I don't want that happening again to Jordesh because people thought it was the wrong decision or people believe other people should of got it. Yes you are all allowed an opinion and most people already stated them, it's now just time to give him a chance.

[Chippiewill]

The thread already had enough comments on who disagreed and agreed that Jordesh should of become Manager. If you didn't know already then there was another thread previous to this one in regards of Shar returning back as a Manager. Due to that thread she resigned due to pressure from the comments that were made in regards of her, I don't want that happening again to Jordesh because people thought it was the wrong decision or people believe other people should of got it. Yes you are all allowed an opinion and most people already stated them, it's now just time to give him a chance.

I didn't see that thread, did I get my chance? NO! Besides this thread does not simply address that, please address my other points rather than just those you have an excuse for.

[Jamesy]

And despite the prior statement, he surely could have made some kind of argument against this:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=669839

Care to explain?

I put in place 2 Smods who were, and I'm sure they don't mind me saying, brand new! In the past I don't imagine they would have risen so fast so to call it unfair is simply not true. Martin wanted to come back, and my first interest is in how well moderation is performed so to have an Smod with experience who can get the other two up to speed along with Sarah and I is the best possible result.

[Chippiewill]

I put in place 2 Smods who were, and I'm sure they don't mind me saying, brand new! In the past I don't imagine they would have risen so fast so to call it unfair is simply not true. Martin wanted to come back, and my first interest is in how well moderation is performed so to have an Smod with experience who can get the other two up to speed along with Sarah and I is the best possible result.

So what you're saying is that when it comes down to it you'll say anything to get me to shut up?

[Jamesy]

So what you're saying is that when it comes down to it you'll say anything to get me to shut up?

You commented on the fairness. I told you it was fair and gave reasons for so.

[Chippiewill]

and my first interest is in how well moderation is performed so to have an Smod with experience who can get the other two up to speed along with Sarah and I is the best possible result.

next time around I will be making sure it is fairer though

I will not commend you for 2/3

[Jamesy]

I will not commend you for 2/3

I'd also point out that question referred to Moderator Applications. Super Moderators are an entirely different situation due to the nature of the job. I think I took far more risks than many of my predecessors with such a role so to call it unfair is simply a load of tosh. If you aren't happy on your own head be it, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.

[Chippiewill]

I'd also point out that question referred to Moderator Applications. Super Moderators are an entirely different situation due to the nature of the job. I think I took far more risks than many of my predecessors with such a role so to call it unfair is simply a load of tosh. If you aren't happy on your own head be it, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.

It's still the same problem?

[xxMATTGxx]

d) Hiring of staff is being rushed, checks are not being made to ensure that the moderator applying is knowledgeable / fits all criterion.

I'm going to guess you have also aimed this part for both Martin and Jordesh, yes? Well ok.

In regards of Jordesh the decision was not rushed. It has been in the General Management & HxHD Management minds for a new Assistant when Shar decided to resign, once we looked at all of the possible candidates we came to a decision on who should get the role. The final decision was that Jordesh should get the shot of being part of the management team and with his good work and dedication in his previous roles we believe it was the correct decision to do and he should do a very good job of it. I have already started other people in that department are also dedicated and do a fantastic job but you cannot give the job to everyone, if they stay and decide to show that dedication even more then they will have a shot at management or even any other role that may be suitable for them.

Now onto Martin,

Yes Martin resigned as Forum Management and today decided he wanted to stay with the department and be a Super Moderator again. I know it might not look ideal in terms of the members eyes but Martin is a very dedicated staff member at Habbox and is a true credit for what he does in the News Department as a News Manager and also is time within the Forum Department. The Super Moderator role is not done by applications and is normally done within the department from Forum Moderator > Super Moderator, if a previous member of the team such as Martin decided he would like to come back and at times we do allow them to return to their previous role. Although, that does depend how the department is managing at the moment and if we are able to fit them in. Martin does a good job at what he does and will continue to be a very good Super Moderator.