In dramatic U-turn, Cameron's senior policy advisor backs calls to pull out of Europe

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-Europe.html

Now Cameron's disillusioned senior policy adviser backs calls to pull out of Europe

Cameron with Steve Hilton in 2006.

Tory calls for Britain to pull out of the European Union received a major boost last night after claims that they are backed by David Cameron’s most senior policy adviser. Downing Street director of strategy Steve Hilton is said to have swung behind moves for the UK to go it alone after being shocked to discover how much sovereignty has switched from Westminster to Brussels. He also believes Britain should pull out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) because it gives too much power to judges – and too little to Ministers and MPs.

Scenes in Athens, Greece as the Eurozone crumbles

Mr Hilton’s growing frustration with the EU is one of the reasons he has been involved in heated exchanges in No 10 which have fuelled reports that he may walk out in protest at the Government’s failure to press ahead with radical reforms to the NHS, White¬hall and other institutions. His stance is strongly opposed by Mr Cameron’s pro-EU chief of staff, Ed Llewellyn, who worked for former Tory EU Commissioner Chris Patten and passionate pro-European Liberal Democrat Paddy Ashdown. Coalition insiders dismissed reports of a bitter rift between volatile Euro- sceptic Mr Hilton and mild-mannered Europhile mandarin Mr Llewellyn.

But they did not dispute Mr Hilton’s dramatic change of heart on the EU. ‘Steve is impatient to get things done but time and again he is told that he can’t because of this or that European legislation,’ said a source. ‘He feels there is strong case for Britain pulling out of the EU and getting rid of the ECHR. The person who usually tells him it can’t be done is Ed Llewellyn.

Do you all see now just the extent of how this project has affected us? our elected government is being told what legislation it can or cannot pass by essentially a group of failed foreign politicians from the Low Countries. Our courts are being overruled by the ECHR and the ECJ which have a continental style of justice which does not include innocent until proven guilty, one of the most precious things about this country.

Here you have a man who didn't look into the issue properly and simply thought the status quo was the best way, yet now he has actually been in government the extent of the EU and EU insitutions are clear to him of who really runs this country that he is backing calls to pull out of the EU/ECHR/ECJ and return to self-rule. With the Euro going belly up (and its getting worse, Greek bonds are now the lowest in the world while Herman Van Rompuy and Angela Merkel are calling on the markets to support the EU and the Euro - the markets know its game over when politicians resort to that!) its time for Britain to make her own laws and have a friendly relationship with Europe while we would be free to trade with the rest of the world and the emerging markets of the Commonwealth.

Thoughout the last decade, the mainstream politicians dismissed this and told you what a success the Euro was and would be along with telling you that our sovereignty was not being taken away by the EU - everything they have said has turned out to be false and now we are seeing the consquences in Greece with riots on the streets, soon likely to come to Portugal, Spain and Ireland.

Should Britain regain sovereingty and leave the EU, ECJ and ECHR?

[Wig44.]

YES! Now close this thread - EU-style - so no one can disagree with us please!

[Fez]

I don't believe a word of this because it's too good to be true.

[Shar]

EU - yes
EJ - yes

Don't see this happening though

[Mathew]

It's a step in the right direction I suppose; although it will probably be the end of the Conservative's term before anything is finalised and Labour will be back in... :rolleyes:

[Ajthedragon]

It's a step in the right direction I suppose; although it will probably be the end of the Conservative's term before anything is finalised and Labour will be back in... :rolleyes:

Too right! Then Labour will mess things up again!

The Euro was a time bomb from the start.

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Why are you both so worried about the prospect of Labour getting back in? (directed to Ayd and Matthew)

[Mathew]

Why are you both so worried about the prospect of Labour getting back in? (directed to Ayd and Matthew)

Labour are obviously pro-EU as they have failed to do anything about the matter in their 13 year term. It's quite nice for a high member of the current Government to be in the minority [of those which will do anything about it]! I know your feelings on Conservative and Labour being exactly the same so don't go there again..

[-:Undertaker:-]

Labour are obviously pro-EU as they have failed to do anything about the matter in their 13 year term. It's quite nice for a high member of the current Government to be in the minority [of those which will do anything about it]! I know your feelings on Conservative and Labour being exactly the same so don't go there again..

But the Tories are doing exactly what Labour would have done in this matter concerning the demise or partial breakup of the failed Euro currency, so far we've given over £20bn in bailouts to Greece which is money we will not see again as Greece will have no option but to default to save a currency which if it were the other way around the Sterling would not be helped.

Don't take my word for it, Roger Helmer (MEP, Conservative) has said this government has been giving away powers at an even faster rate than Labour were during their term in office. The Conservative Party is, after all, the party which took us into the EEC, signed the Single European Act, signed the Maastricht Treaty and refuses to repeal any part of the Lisbon Treaty.

One final question to you then, if Labour are Pro-EU (which they are), what does this make the Conservative Party given its actions in the past & now?

[Mathew]

But the Tories are doing exactly what Labour would have done in this matter concerning the demise or partial breakup of the failed Euro currency, so far we've given over £20bn in bailouts to Greece which is money we will not see again as Greece will have no option but to default to save a currency which if it were the other way around the Sterling would not be helped.

You have no idea what Labour would have done right now and you never will. Personally, I think Labour would stick with the EU; the Euro has been deteriorating for years (heck, the financial crisis in 2008 was under the Labour Government) and they failed to show any indication to their activity in the EU. I agree with you on bailing out Greece, it's a load of rubbish and it's time we sorted our own problems out before helping others.

One final question to you then, if Labour are Pro-EU (which they are), what does this make the Conservative Party given its actions in the past & now?

Of course the Conservatives have been pro-EU in the past and they probably still are, I haven't said anywhere that they aren't. All I have said is that it's "nice for a high member of the current Government to be in the minority" and it's therefore a step in the right direction.