Can the Conservatives possibly win the next election?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Is the Conservative and Unionist Party dead?

Will David Cameron be the last Conservative Party Prime Minister?

Why are the 80 Euro-rebels still in the Useless Tory Party? They know that they were right, and David Cameron (pictured) was wrong. They also know that if they stay under his command he will carry on treating them like insects.

Some will be threatened. Some will find their seats have vanished thanks to Mr Cameron’s creepy reform plan. As long as they submit to him, they have no future. They will achieve nothing worth having for themselves, or for those who voted for them. The things they believe in will still be scorned by the cold, ruthless liberal clique that runs the Tory Party. Britain will stay trapped in the burning building that is the European Union, gaining nothing and losing independence, liberty and prosperity.

But look at what happens to the mere 57 Liberal Democrat MPs who voted for the EU on Monday. They are much loved by Mr Cameron and his circle. They need only to whisper a desire and it is granted – the latest being the ghastly plan to make us all live on Berlin Time. Unlike the principled Tory rebels, these Liberal Democrat MPs stand for very little. They are mostly in Parliament because of what they are not, and what they don’t think or don’t say, rather than because of who they are or what they believe in.

If 57 soppy anti-British, pro-crime, anti-education, pro-immigration, anti-family nonentities can push David Cameron around with the constant unspoken threat of walking out of the Coalition, think what 80 pro-British, anti-crime, anti-immigration, pro-education MPs could do to him by actually walking out of it. He would then have to face a proper opposition – after all, David Davis disagrees with Mr Cameron much more than Ed Miliband does, and about far more subjects.

But to have any impact, the 80 must quit the Tory Party, which last week finally and irrevocably turned its back on its voters. As long as they stay inside it they are powerless serfs. Worse, they are a human shield protecting Mr Cameron from the emergence of a proper patriotic movement. Following the example of the ‘Gang of Four’, who nearly 30 years ago came within an inch of destroying and replacing the Labour Party, they should declare independence. From then on, if Mr Cameron wants their support, he will have to ask for it nicely, rather than by threatening, insulting and bullying them. And such a grouping would at last provide a real alternative to the three near-identical BBC-approved parties that nowadays compete for our votes.

My guess is that such a breakaway would do well at any by-election in an existing Tory seat, and by 2015 would be at least halfway to replacing the sordid and treacherous official Unconservative Party. Then we might have something to hope for.

What is there to lose? Its potential leaders know who they are, and how to act. Now is the time to do so.

Is the Conservative and Unionist Party dead? with the latest polls not looking good for a relatively new government, do you think there is any chance that the Conservative Party will ever win another election? even with the press backing the Tory Party and having a grudge against Ed Miliband, not because of policy (because its exactly the same as that of David Cameron), but because they've made a deal with the Tory Party.

The Party failed to win an election against a tired and unpopular government which had been in office for three terms back in 2010, despite having the media classes on board and its membership continues to slide;

The total membership in more than 200 constituency associations – barely a third of the overall number – who provided relevant figures to the elections watchdog fell from 185,000 to 145,000 between December 2005 and December 2008. The constituencies experiencing falls include "safe" seats, the bases of shadow Cabinet members and target seats that must be taken if the Tories are to win the next general election.

Latest YouGov opinion poll;

Labour Party 39%
Conservative Party 36%
Liberal Democrats 8%
UK Independence Party (UKIP) 7%
Others 9%

PROJECTED RESULT = 32-seat majority for Labour

Is the Conservative Party dead? can it win the next election under any circumstances? what would replace it?

Who in your opinion will win the next election?

[scottish]

Yes, they possibly can.

I think Labour.

[Catzsy]

It is just a repeat of the 1980s - high inflation and even higher unemployment. His measures simply will not work.
He is most definitely syle over substance. Obstinate in one way but with very little backbone. I do believe if he had shown some courage and gone with the EU referendum he would probably be higher in the polls and the longer the coalition carries on the more the back benchers will revolt.

[AgnesIO]

Labour will get in again, I reckon.

I will never vote Lib Dems ever again. Ever.

[Catzsy]

Labour will get in again, I reckon.

I will never vote Lib Dems ever again. Ever.

I really think they have made the worst mistake ever in their history to join the Tories and that is what Nick Clegg will be after the next election - history!

[Mathew]

I really think they have made the worst mistake ever in their history to join the Tories and that is what Nick Clegg will be after the next election - history!

Whilst it was probably a pretty bone-headed decision for any long term plans, anyone would have done the same in that situation. Let's be honest, the Lib Dems would never have made any influence in parliament if they were carrying on doing the same old, same old. Forming a coalition meant they'd be partners in crime, getting their preaching picked up by the media and giving Nick Clegg an increased pay package. They really need to hold on as long as they can this time around, because the opportunity simply won't arise again in the near future. That's why the coalition won't crumble.

I highly doubt the Tories can win the next election. The general public fail to understand why change happens. Cuts to their pension is seen as "the governments fault" and sadly, they don't know any better than to vote Labour or Conservative. Lesser known parties such as UKIP are simply unheard of, when they are probably the ones with the balls to make some change. Labour will win the next election yielding no changes other than an increases debt, and Tories will be expected to pick up the mess yet again. Such a shame.

[Catzsy]

Whilst it was probably a pretty bone-headed decision for any long term plans, anyone would have done the same in that situation. Let's be honest, the Lib Dems would never have made any influence in parliament if they were carrying on doing the same old, same old. Forming a coalition meant they'd be partners in crime, getting their preaching picked up by the media and giving Nick Clegg an increased pay package. They really need to hold on as long as they can this time around, because the opportunity simply won't arise again in the near future. That's why the coalition won't crumble.

I highly doubt the Tories can win the next election. The general public fail to understand why change happens. Cuts to their pension is seen as "the governments fault" and sadly, they don't know any better than to vote Labour or Conservative. Lesser known parties such as UKIP are simply unheard of, when they are probably the ones with the balls to make some change. Labour will win the next election yielding no changes other than an increases debt, and Tories will be expected to pick up the mess yet again. Such a shame.

I agree in part about what you say about the lib dems but that is not how the majority of the public is going to see it. Also I predict that the debt is going to be a lot worse with the tories plans. The tories cannot keep making this excuse either they have been in for 18 months. Labour - low inflation, growth - can you say that the people of this country are not moaning daily about the cost of food etc etc. They are now blaming the EU crisis LOL. Seriously one day some of them will admit that the global banking crisis of 2008 did hit the world hard and stop blaming Labour for it all.

[Rozi]

God I bloody well hope not.

[GommeInc]

I dislike all three of the major parties, and unfortunately I can see it going in favour of Labour who will start cycle all over again. I'd rather see UKIP or another party win the election. The Conservatives are not the Conservatives, and New Labour are nothing like Old Labour. Unfortunately voters are stupid and never know what they are voting for, and will go with what makes them comfortable requiring no thought. If I had to choose out of the three main parties, I'd choose the Conservatives because I really cannot stand Labour.

[AgnesIO]

I dislike all three of the major parties, and unfortunately I can see it going in favour of Labour who will start cycle all over again. I'd rather see UKIP or another party win the election. The Conservatives are not the Conservatives, and New Labour are nothing like Old Labour. Unfortunately voters are stupid and never know what they are voting for, and will go with what makes them comfortable requiring no thought. If I had to choose out of the three main parties, I'd choose the Conservatives because I really cannot stand Labour.

Can't stand UKIP, hate them. Probably due to Dan though to be fair, the constant banging on etc lol