Call for referendum re-vote?

[Kimmy]

I had a neighbour who sickened herself over the referendum, she was that dedicated to it. She had big YES signs across every window in her house, Scottish flags flew in her garden and she travelled to different parts of the county to campaign for votes in a completely non-militant fashion. For the past year or so, since the referendum begun, she dedicated her life to trying to influence people to make a change for Scotland. Now, it's not the same as gathering men to go against King Edward, Edward and Edward's armies, but it's definitely giving it a good go. In fact, if some of the campaigners in Glasgow's George Square had painted their faces and worn tartan kilts with broadswords strapped to their hips, you would've known no different.
If you'd witnessed the extreme devotion and patriotism coming from the Scottish people, you would never once guessed that the No vote coming tops in the referendum was even a possibility. You would have imagined that the Scottish would've disentangled themselves from the clasp of the English from which they'd been withheld for so long.
In the Capture of Berwick, we were bent double at the waists and spanked by the English when they took siege over the town and violated the women.
In the Raid of Scone, Siege of Stirling Castle, Battle of Roslin, Battle of Dunbar, Falkirk and many, many more, the Scottish men were slaughtered. King John was manipulated and ridiculed by Edward as he was a 'weak King'. Scotland were almost forced to battle against their strongest allies, to pay their taxes to fund this battle, and when we found it within us to revolt – we were pushed back and stomped upon.

And hereby, you'd guess that with years of change and settling with the English customs, you'd think that once the opportunity to grasp what was once dancing between our patriotic fingertips came along, we'd grab it and keep a firm, firm hold.

Waking up this Friday morning to discover that we'd lost a battle that it didn't take thousands of deaths and revolts to win was a sure kick in the face for many, but for the majority? It was a celebratory day. I'd like to here share with you, a few of the posts that were upon my Facebook (full of scots) on the morning of waking, -and- some fishy things that make the No majority vote win seem not quite right.

“Scotland the brave... R.I.P.”

“Feel so proud to be able to say I was part of the 45% who believed in Scotland”

“Still absolutley gutted scotland will be independant one day, the dream will never die”

“SCOTLAND WILL RISE AGAIN!!!”

“Ed Miliband has turned down giving more powers to Scotland. Hope you're proud of what yous have done voting no. Knew this was gonna happen !!”

Angry, right? But what caught my eye was the other posts that looked more into the mysterious 'No' vote. Those who purely believed that Scotland would find their independence.

In a polling station, the fire alarm went off twice to evacuate people from the building – of which a few stayed inside to 'save votes'.
There was a car crash on the M9 that delayed many boxes of votes.
Many polling stations did not use wax-based pencils that would have prevented the ability to rub out votes.
There are videos of people 'sorting' the votes, though if you look closer they seem rather suspicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg

At the same time, it doesn't seem likely that thousands of votes would have been miscounted because of 'rigging', or favouritism over one party. However, it does seem highly unlikely that Edinburgh, Scotland's capital was a majority no and that Stirling, where one of the historical wars took place, lead close behind.

Many on Facebook and other social media's have been sharing a 'petition' that you sign up to for a re-vote however, it seems very highly unlikely that this is a possibility when the English parliament have already won. Why would they do it all again?

Tell me what you think below! How do you feel about the loss of independence, and if it were possible, would you call for a re-vote?

[scottish]

If you'd witnessed the extreme devotion and patriotism coming from the Scottish people, you would never once guessed that the No vote coming tops in the referendum was even a possibility.

Yes you would, No was always the primary campaign winner and I think most people predicted a No vote. The only thing to show otherwise as the one YouGov poll which essentially killed the Yes campaign (in my opinion, as everyone was sitting back comfortably, and soon as that was published it pushed people to vote to ensure it was a No victory by a 10 point lead)

Just because you have a few hundred Yes campaigners on your facebook doesn't make the poll 'fishy'. The majority of older generation backed the No vote.

In a polling station, the fire alarm went off twice to evacuate people from the building – of which a few stayed inside to 'save votes'.

The fire alarm went off twice in Dundee iirc (which had a majority Yes vote) so if that's your logic then surely it was fixed for Yes then?

There was a car crash on the M9 that delayed many boxes of votes.

Car crashes happen every minute, not surprising especially on the M9.

Many polling stations did not use wax-based pencils that would have prevented the ability to rub out votes.

Pretty sure they legally have to..

There are videos of people 'sorting' the votes, though if you look closer they seem rather suspicious.

I assume the video is the Yes pile in the No section? If you paid any attention you'd see Yes campaigners posting on Twitter and such stating that they hadn't been sorted and were simply put there for storage purposes.

However, it does seem highly unlikely that Edinburgh, Scotland's capital was a majority no and that Stirling, where one of the historical wars took place, lead close behind.

Lol

Many on Facebook and other social media's have been sharing a 'petition' that you sign up to for a re-vote however, it seems very highly unlikely that this is a possibility when the English parliament have already won. Why would they do it all again?

It's not 'very highly unlikely', it's simply not going to happen. The English parliament did not win, the No voters of Scotland won.



There is no "loss of independence" as we didn't have independence to begin with, we simply turned down a vote to go independent.

No I wouldn't call for a re-vote (nor will there be one) just because one campaign lost (by what, 380k votes iirc?).

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't see why Scotland and the SNP won't have another vote, after all, the EU makes people vote over and over until they give the 'right' choice.

So there's really nothing stopping them.

[scottish]

SNP has accepted that the democratic choice of the Scottish people is a 10 point No lead.

Wait 50 years we might have another independence referendum.

[RyRy]

There will be another referendum, like Scott said, least in our life time.

[wixard]

i hope it's like the lisbon treaty that was hilarious

[The Don]

The two million people that voted not to break up their country are wrong due to a few anecdotal examples pulled freshly from your Facebook Newsfeed? English Parliament haven't won, the Scottish people have won. A majority voted to stay in the United Kingdom, it has nothing to do with the English.

[Kimmy]

The two million people that voted not to break up their country are wrong due to a few anecdotal examples pulled freshly from your Facebook Newsfeed? English Parliament haven't won, the Scottish people have won. A majority voted to stay in the United Kingdom, it has nothing to do with the English.

The Facebook comments were to solely reflect on the feelings of people that I associate myself with every day, rather than the fact that the majority vote was wrong. I'm not the one claiming it's wrong, I'm giving insight to what I see.
Also, anecdotal would imply that there wasn't visual evidence, which there rather explicitly was.

[The Don]

Anecdotal means personal accounts or a small sample size rather than facts/research from a sufficient sample. From the woman you mention at the start of your post right through to the Facebook comments you've provided at the bottom, all of it is anecdotal. I'm not disputing you personally, i'm disputing your original post. If you don't agree with it then that's cool, but what I wrote was addressed to the opinions and arguments you've provided in the first post