Gay play comments - Police question father

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http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/10/father...chool-5745072/

Statsi Police talk to father over gay play comments

A parent allegedly posted a homophobic rant on Facebook after his son’s school staged a play where two princes fell in love.
Julian Marsh wrote a public post on social media complaining his son came home ‘talking about gays, saying he had learned about gays.’ He accused the school of social engineering and claimed: ‘I think people who promote PC sex to kids below 11 border on paedophilia and are depraved.

‘It has nothing to do with gay sex that upset us but the lack of parental consent, a bit like finding the school had decided it has the right to vaccinate your kids for you and did it without your consent because it knows best.’ Now the headteacher of Sacred Heart RC Primary in Atherton, near Wigan, has vowed to stand up to homophobia. Carrie Morrow said she was shocked the workshop aimed at teaching children about diversity was criticised by a ‘small minority’ of parents on Facebook.

Actors from a theatre company came in to perform the fairytale where two princes fall in love, to teach pupils there are many different kinds of relationships. But not everyone was impressed. Mr Marsh was reported to police by another user for his comments, along with another man, and both have since been spoken to by officers. ‘I know for some schools it is not an easy aspect of the curriculum to teach, but our pupils handled it with maturity and sensitivity,’ Ms Morrow said, adding she was proud to be one of the first schools locally to publicly stand up to homophobia.

‘We have been quite bold and it has not been without some negativity from the community. We are not intimidated as we know such homophobic attitudes are in the minority.’ As well as watching the play, children were asked to design a logo for Wigan’s first Pride festival and were told when it was acceptable to use the word gay. When Mr Marsh was approached by the Manchester Evening News, he said he was not homophobic and did not wish to comment further.

Can you believe this? My blood is boiling.

The British Police since the 1990s have now been turned into a political force and take sides in social arguments when their job is to enforce the law. Another great legacy of Blair where we have the appalling site of Police stations flying the rainbow flag which is as distasteful as the prospect of the Civil Service putting a Labour/Conservative/Ukip flag up over their buildings. These organisations are supposed to be strictly neutral which is why this country has long enjoyed freedoms others have not.

One of the most sinister moments in my life actually came from an experience in a university lecture with the Police you know. I was attending a guest lecture on Freedom of Speech and near the end a man stood up (he was gay) and informed the room he was from the Police. He then went on to basically tell the room that if they heard any speech which basically objected to homosexuality, transexuality and so on to inform the Police. It was at that moment it dawned on me, with a fright, how bent the Police in this country now are and as a result I have zero faith in them. Sinister.

Amazing how the formerly persecuted (gays) have become the persecuters.

Then again, shame on the father for not standing up for himself. I'd tell the Police to get lost as I do not need to 'explain' or justify my views to them.

[FlyingJesus]

A love story isn't an advert for gay sex, and since when did schools need consent to teach children? That's literally their job

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A love story isn't an advert for gay sex, and since when did schools need consent to teach children? That's literally their job

completely agree with fj on this. The parent seriously needs to think before posting. Teaching children that its ok for a man and another man to be in a relationship is perfectly fine and I would not see why consent is needed :/ I feel if it was a story about "two princesses falling in love" the father of the child would have been perfectly fine with it. some parents need to be taught before their kids :/

[Empired]

Bit of an overreaction for the police, especially as anyone with quarter of a brain would have looked at that man's comment and thought "what a ***" and then thought nothing more of it. Easier for people who disagree with him to just realise he's an idiot and get on with their lives than inform the police lol... Police have better things to be doing than telling idiots to stop spouting rubbish.

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completely agree with fj on this. The parent seriously needs to think before posting. Teaching children that its ok for a man and another man to be in a relationship is perfectly fine and I would not see why consent is needed :/ I feel if it was a story about "two princesses falling in love" the father of the child would have been perfectly fine with it. some parents need to be taught before their kids :/

Why should a free man who pays his taxes need to "think" (aka change his views to suit your own) before airing them?

That's a very scary and sinister way to think. And on the love story itself, bringing any social views into schools like that at such an early age will only serve to confuse the children and is social engineering at it's worst. Keep this sort of social experimentation out of schools especially to small children below the age of 11 and 12.

[Cerys]

Why should a free man who pays his taxes need to "think" (aka change his views to suit your own) before airing them?

That's a very scary and sinister way to think. And on the love story itself, bringing any social views into schools like that at such an early age will only serve to confuse the children and is social engineering at it's worst. Keep this sort of social experimentation out of schools especially to small children below the age of 11 and 12.

How is teaching children that it's acceptable to be gay etc social engineering or an experiment, it's a part of life. That's like saying oh we shouldn't teach children that people die - it's a part of life that they're going to learn about regardless so we should surely teach them about it in a 'safe' environment.

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How is teaching children that it's acceptable to be gay social engineering or an experiment, it's a part of life. That's like saying oh we shouldn't teach children that people die - it's a part of life that they're going to learn about regardless so we should surely teach them about it in a 'safe' environment.

It is a part of life but not one many children can get their heads around until they are older. I certainly couldn't get my head around it as a child even when I first understood what it meant and that was near the end of primary school/beginning of high school. The beliefs and morals of the parents come before those of the state.

Like I always say, it is really amusing to see those who drone on about tolerance on issues like these totally brush aside the moral views of others who actually have children of which the same cannot be said for most LGBTXYZ campaigners. How I raise my children is my choice, not that of Stonewall.

[Cerys]

It is a part of life but not one many children can get their heads around until they are older. I certainly couldn't get my head around it as a child even when I first understood what it meant and that was near the end of primary school/beginning of high school. The beliefs and morals of the parents come before those of the state.

OK so say your best friend in primary school had two dads - a gay couple - what would you expect your teachers to do, just dance around the topic whenever someone asks??

Just because you couldn't get your head around it when you were a child doesn't mean today's children can't - speaking from a relatives experience whenever homosexuality is discussed in their school the children are always interested and keen to learn more and respectful of the topic

[FlyingJesus]

How is it confusing to see two people fall in love? I think it would be far more confusing to be kept in the dark about something relatively common and discover that things aren't exactly what you think they are at an age where your ideals have become more ingrained. This is just letting kids know how some people think, it's not "cleanliness is next to Fordliness"

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OK so say your best friend in primary school had two dads - a gay couple - what would you expect your teachers to do, just dance around the topic whenever someone asks??

I don't expect the teachers to do anything really other than briefly explain (if it really requires it).

In any case that is different. Explaining that somebody has two "Dads" is a factual legal statement that requires neither praise or condemnation from the teacher whereas coming into a school and having children take part in a pro-homosexuality play is a lot different as it is pushing a particular social agenda that many parents may feel uncomfortable with, including this man and myself.

Just because you couldn't get your head around it when you were a child doesn't mean today's children can't - speaking from a relatives experience whenever homosexuality is discussed in their school the children are always interested and keen to learn more and respectful of the topic

Are teachers/the schools respectful of alternative opinions on the matter I wonder?

Or if a child expresses disapproval or an objection to homosexuality, should the parents receive a knock on the door from the Police as this man has?