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    Meanwhile, millions of cancer scans are being cancelled, suicides are up and job losses are outstripping the 2008 recession. It's like having warts on your finger, and the Doctor suggests amputating your hand as a cure.

    My friend who lives in central London and his girlfriend have just finished packing now and are on their way to Wales in the next hour - first thing I did was to call him and say get the **** out now while you still can. And a new strain has arisen there in southern England? LOL. How predictable, so it does behave just like the incurable flu then as many of us said months ago. Surprise surprise! (not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
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    Meanwhile, millions of cancer scans are being cancelled, suicides are up and job losses are outstripping the 2008 recession. It's like having warts on your finger, and the Doctor suggests amputating your hand as a cure.

    My friend who lives in central London and his girlfriend have just finished packing now and are on their way to Wales in the next hour - first thing I did was to call him and say get the **** out now while you still can. And a new strain has arisen there in southern England? LOL. How predictable, so it does behave just like the incurable flu then as many of us said months ago. Surprise surprise! (not).
    Sadly I have to disagree with you. As someone who works for a supermarket I have seen people breaking the rules since the start e.g. during the first lockdown coming in 5 times a day for scratch cards and often more times. If that person was infected everytime they came out they could technically put someone at risk.

    Yes some things may be overblown but I feel if they had been swift and strict from the start things would be different. I called the second lockdown ages before it happened and had people I know telling me it would never happen due to the economy etc. They said they wouldn't and umed and ared. If they had done it quicker and closed the schools which seemed to be a key infection factor things might be a little different.

    I still say the first lockdown wasn't strict enough and they reopened pubs and stuff far too early and should have held off longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteyt View Post
    Sadly I have to disagree with you. As someone who works for a supermarket I have seen people breaking the rules since the start e.g. during the first lockdown coming in 5 times a day for scratch cards and often more times. If that person was infected everytime they came out they could technically put someone at risk.

    Yes some things may be overblown but I feel if they had been swift and strict from the start things would be different. I called the second lockdown ages before it happened and had people I know telling me it would never happen due to the economy etc. They said they wouldn't and umed and ared. If they had done it quicker and closed the schools which seemed to be a key infection factor things might be a little different.

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    I keep seeing the British public being blamed for "breaking the rules" but quite clearly the rules are incompatible with human behaviour.

    Spain endured and has endured much harsher restrictions since March and it has made ZERO difference.

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    I still say the first lockdown wasn't strict enough and they reopened pubs and stuff far too early and should have held off longer
    I'm sorry but this line of thinking is - in the words of Lord Sumption below - fanatical.

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    *REMOVED* had to go one further, of course.

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    Not making a full response because you never listen and are completely unwilling to learn, but I do need to say that you've been asked before not to encourage people to break the law and put themselves at risk. Having a ridiculous opinion that flies in the face of all facts is one thing, but purposely putting others in danger (both legally and medically) is not something we want here
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Not making a full response because you never listen and are completely unwilling to learn, but I do need to say that you've been asked before not to encourage people to break the law and put themselves at risk. Having a ridiculous opinion that flies in the face of all facts is one thing, but purposely putting others in danger (both legally and medically) is not something we want here
    Lord Sumption, a former Supreme Court justice, has himself told people to make individual choices on which of these measures to follow.

    People are entitled to make their own calls on this, whether they want to stay inside and shelter or whether they want to take the supposed risk.

    This pro-lockdown MP has been on the media calling for more draconian measures for months.

    Turns out even he doesn't believe what he and his government are saying. Would you go to a dinner of 27 if you genuinely believed this was a deadly virus?
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    Great, he's not on this forum. Law is law, we do not allow for illegal activity or encouraging it here
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Great, he's not on this forum. Law is law, we do not allow for illegal activity or encouraging it here
    Have you ever smoked cannabis?

    I recall you in the past stating you have take illegal drugs although correct me if I am wrong.


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    There is a vast difference between saying you've done something in the past and encouraging masses to commit a certain act in the future. This is not difficult, I've made a very simple request and I don't know why you're trying so hard to fight it that you needed to go wildly off topic to attack me. I'm not saying you can't have your opinion, I'm literally just asking you not to tell people that they should break the law. This did not need to become a discussion, it's not one I want to continue, and any further replies to me here will be taken as a clear attempt to just cause arguments
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    Throwback to last month when the government and its "scientists" lied to us over the last set of lockdown laws: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54831334

    Tory backbenchers and the CRG already calling for a vote on these arbitrary "laws" that the Prime Minister is issuing.
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