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    Default Tory MP refuses to meet Muslim women wearing burkas

    A Conservative MP today declared he would refuse to meet Muslim women wearing full Islamic dress at his constituency surgery unless they lifted their face veil.
    Phillip Hollobone made the comments after launching a Private Member's Bill to ban women in the UK wearing the burka or niqab in public places.

    It comes after France banned women wearing the full-face veil, making it an illegal offence.

    But Muslim groups have condemned the Kettering MP and accused him of failing in his duty as a member of Parliament.
    I expect the PC hxf brigade will come along screaming racism until their lungs implode, but hey ho. Surprise me.

    I think this man is doing the right thing and I support him not meeting them. I wouldn't - these women (sometimes men, who knows?) scare me in this burkas and veils - I can't see them and have no idea who is under there. What if they commit a crime? No idea who did it, other than masked person behind the burka... not really narrowing it down.

    Now all those who disagree, ask yourself this: would you meet somebody who's got their face covered or somebody hiding behind a balaclava or mask? I wouldn't want to. I bet somebody here would though.

    On the bigger subject of burka bans, I hope it is banned. Other European nations are banning them, or preparing to, and I fully agree. In the western world we do not walk around with our faces hidden... unless we're going to commit a crime in a balaclava! But honestly, they present many issues do burkas... CCTV are useless against them, it wastes security time as they have to be unveiled elsewhere (if they agree at all) and they are not required in Islam, only specific cultures wear them...

    What do you think?
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    Well as he is a public figure I guess he has the right to say 'no'. I am sure that people would also remove their , motorbike helmets and balaclavas as you say. There is probably a one in a million chance that she would be a security risk but it has happened that terrorists disguise themselves in this way. He is not being racist just looking after the security of himself and his staff I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Well as he is a public figure I guess he has the right to say 'no'. I am sure that people would also remove their , motorbike helmets and balaclavas as you say. There is probably a one in a million chance that she would be a security risk but it has happened that terrorists disguise themselves in this way. He is not being racist just looking after the security of himself and his staff I guess.
    There was also this robber who wore a burka to get into a jewellers, the owners buzzed "her" through, then a load of accomplices burst in and ransacked the place.

    But security aside, I wouldn't like talking to some cloth covering someone's face... it's not racism as Islam isn't a race, and if somebody was wearing a balaclava or bike helmet I'd ask them to remove it...

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    I do not agree with what these burkas represent.

    I care more about the bark on a tree more than I do about how they're cultural or religiously valued. Guns and pathetic gun control are part of the American culture and I disagree with that.
    I'm not crazy, ask my toaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    I do not agree with what these burkas represent.

    I care more about the bark on a tree more than I do about how they're cultural or religiously valued. Guns and pathetic gun control are part of the American culture and I disagree with that.
    Good point. However, we would be classed as racist for saying that... even though it is not racist. :rolleyes:

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    Personally I feel they should be banned in public places such as shops for the pure reason that you simply cannot see who is under the burka, and it makes me slightly uncomfortable when all you can see if someone's eyes. Furthermore only being able to see someones eyes goes against so many security and safety guidelines.

    My dad is a motorcyclist and is always told to take off his helmet when he goes into a petrol station for example, so what is the difference between a motorcycle helmet, mask, hoody, balaclarva (sorry unsure on spelling) or a burka. Im sorry but there is no difference, if you can't see someones face they should be made to reveal it especially in public situations regardless of what religion they see themselves as part of.
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    I can see the point between both sides. Over in "their" country they will let us do what we want in terms of talking to local government, so we should do the same even if it includes a pointless garment that just appeared somehow. So it's his opinion really, versus their belief. There's no wrong or right way, only opinion :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starburst..x View Post
    Personally I feel they should be banned in public places such as shops for the pure reason that you simply cannot see who is under the burka, and it makes me slightly uncomfortable when all you can see if someone's eyes. Furthermore only being able to see someones eyes goes against so many security and safety guidelines.

    My dad is a motorcyclist and is always told to take off his helmet when he goes into a petrol station for example, so what is the difference between a motorcycle helmet, mask, hoody, balaclarva (sorry unsure on spelling) or a burka. Im sorry but there is no difference, if you can't see someones face they should be made to reveal it especially in public situations regardless of what religion they see themselves as part of.
    Well the difference is their faith, but that's me begin nit picky

    I swear though that they aren't actually required in the religion, seems like a bit of a massive amount of fuss over nothing tbh, but i agree with the MP, why risk his security over nothing. Religion, in my opinion, just creates so many problems these days, makes absolutely no sense to me.


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    I personally think they should ban them, i find it really affensive seeing one in town

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragorn View Post
    I personally think they should ban them, i find it really affensive seeing one in town
    Not that i care, but whys that?


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