'Second hand smoke' myth

[-:Undertaker:-]

'Second hand smoke' - a time for reflection?

(be aware video contains curse words)

I dare anybody, anybody at all on this forum who believes in banning smoking in public places/bars/pubs because of 'second hand smoke' to watch even the first 8 minutes of this video. The myth is debunked in a funny way and I beg a advocate of banning smoking in public places (yes there's quite a few of you on here) to reply once you've viewed even the first eight minutes of the video. The part about smoking lasts until about 15:00.

Really, you'll find it interesting and its not heavy or anything so give it a view if you have some spare time!

Anybody brave enough? thoughts?

[The Don]

It's not hard to go outside of a pub/club/bar to have a quick smoke and it's much more convenient, so in that sense, it should be banned from inside public places.

[buttons]

er even if it doesn't harm us (which i believe it does) it still lingers on your clothing and makes me cough/gag. seriously when i had to live in a temp house myself, it was a non-smoking house but the guy before disregarded that and smoked anyway. the whole house smelled. ALL my clothes, even if they hadn't been worn but were just lying about SMELLED. horrible. honestly, why are you so adamant to allow public smoking in bars/clubs? because it'll get more customers? that's the pubs/clubs problem. our club here has a smoking room.... it should be up to them.
no i haven't watched this, i'm commenting only on what you've posted which is ridiculous. of course people are going to say that second hand smoking isn't dangerous. you do realize only in the 1950s etc they didn't even know there were any health complications with first-hand smoking???? man you're stuck in the past with everything lol. it's easier and more convient for smokers to get out of the way of non-smokers than vise versa. & i'm more than happy to stay away from people whenever i do smoke. it's simple and respectful.

[Accipiter]

Heres my point, if you can't prove it, don't give a damn about it.

I merely don't like standing around people who smoke, because they'll tell me about how their life is hard and how their uncle was very friendly when they where young. It's a foul stench, and I avoid people who smoke with a wide birth because it's a dirty habbit.

I'm neither side, smoke if you want to, but if someone dislikes it move away.

The video is very biased, where you not only just moaning about the BBC for that very kind of thing?

[GommeInc]

I don't care about the harm it does. It's a disgusting habit that should never of happened. There are zilch benefits when it comes to smoking, and people stupid enough to take up the habit should seperate themselves and smoke outside to respect others. It's forcing respect onto people who partake in a stinky, dirty habit, because they're too selfish to remvoe themselves from the company of people who do not want to leave a place after a night out stinking of tobacco smoke.

[cocaine]

I merely don't like standing around people who smoke, because they'll tell me about how their life is hard and how their uncle was very friendly when they where young.

yeah cause that happens to every smoker :rolleyes: i don't really like the smell of second hand smoke, but you're only ever in it for 3 seconds maximum if you're outside..

[Accipiter]

yeah cause that happens to every smoker :rolleyes: i don't really like the smell of second hand smoke, but you're only ever in it for 3 seconds maximum if you're outside..

It was more a joke, recollecting the horrific time when I went on a door to door sales interview when it was suppose to be marketing, knocking on the door of a fat ginger 14 year old geordie telling us how hard his life is playing on mw3 all day:rolleyes:

[Fez]

I've had asthma attacks from second-hand smoke, smoking has a clear link to lung cancer so (obviously) second-hand smoke does too. Penn and Teller have never really done anything constructive with their shows, aside from this lovely video-game defence, even displaying absolute militant atheism twisted into anti-theism. I wouldn't trust anyone interviewed in that posting.

Do I believe in the ban? In theory, absolutely. In practice, the governments have made an absolute ****-up of not investing in 'smoking rooms', making private businesses pick up the bill. No surprise that pubs are losing business in this day and age when people have to go outside into the cold to deal with their depression.

But, honestly, if you want to suggest for one second that second hand smoke can't harm people well I grew up in a family of smokers and the doctors I saw throughout my asthma have all said there's a link there. My asthma is set off by anyone smoking, worse than sprays and such. If you also want to dispute asthma somehow not harming the human body then hello!

[Andy]

i'm a smoker, but a fair one.. if people don't like me smoking around them, ill go outside.. i most definitely agree with the view that is should be the business owners choice. designated inside smoking rooms possibly? yes, it is just common decency to go outside.. but sometimes you feel discriminated against. like the 'evidence' says.. it's not particularly dangerous but i'm a fair person.. i'll happily go outside to keep others happy. you cant beat the system.. therefore you go with it

[Chippiewill]

That video whilst proving a good point was clearly very biased and cannot be trusted. Not to mention all the logical fallacies they had riddled everywhere to emphasise a point.

I don't think second hand smoke is particularly harmful to most people, but as above things like asthma can kill certain people which is unfair and restricts where they can go. But my problem with second and smoke is that it stinks and I've found being in public is much nicer when you're not having smoke shoved down your lungs. Do I think a full public ban is necessary? No. Do I think there should be serious restrictions on where it is allowed in public? Yes. Pubs, bars, places suited towards it.