HabboxWiki - Rare Values

[Lee]

So, for those that haven't seen the announcement here it is; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...5&goto=newpost

I like it, I know Will has been working really hard to develop this and make it work effectively so well done it's a big achievement for the wiki team

What is everybody else's thoughts on it?

[Zelda]

Seems useful except for 2 things

- I highly doubt ud be on the wiki for that purpose anyway, if you wanted quick values you'd just check on mp or If its not on there then on the main site, or if the mp item has been mucked around with to get a higher price

- massive decline in the use of our values anyway as they come from peoples shops which come from mp so many people if not most will just look at mp to get quicker if not more accurate bases to work around with prices, as sad as that is for zee wonderful depart.

But apart from that should hopefully be a good success and clearly chippie has put a lot of work into it. Just interested though,will it feed the data off the site and therefore automatically update though, cause otherwise that would be very painful process.

[Chippiewill]

It's fully automated, currently you have to wait for the mediawiki object cache to expire before it'll fetch new values however that's once every 24 hours which is appropriate enough.

- I highly doubt ud be on the wiki for that purpose anyway, if you wanted quick values you'd just check on mp or If its not on there then on the main site, or if the mp item has been mucked around with to get a higher price

It's more for convenience sake, if you're on the wiki and wish to know the value you don't have to look elsewhere.

[Zelda]

Ye I can understand that fully as a reason to have, good reason tbh I just not sure how used it will be, but every opportunity to present our values to the public is a good one I suppose, plus Ye thought it would be automated, and 24 hours should be fine tbh.

[Samantha]

I saw this being created and wondered what it was I think it's nice to have the value at the side but if there is no value it's displayed at 0 credits which may indicate that they are worth nothing. I know this goes off values on site but unknown would be better. However I like it!

[Chippiewill]

I can make it "unknown", but I was just feeding the values as they were on the main site. I'll be sure to make that change on the next update to the extension, thanks for the suggestion.

[Samantha]

Yeah I think it's a really good feature and no problem

[HotelUser]

When I came online I also wanted to point out that I think this looks really attractive! I do feel it should be at the top of articles in lieu of the bottom, however.

[Chippiewill]

When I came online I also wanted to point out that I think this looks really attractive! I do feel it should be at the top of articles in lieu of the bottom, however.

I can test that, I just need to be wary as I was scared of doing it in JS so I currently inject it into the mediawiki page rendering and getting it at the top of the article is more difficult than the bottom.

Out of curiosity do you have MySQL permissions to assign individual table permissions on the habbox.com db? I doubt you do since Matt doesn't, but Jin might have given them to you since you're less likely to break something by accident. I'd just rather grab the RV out of the database than using the rares page.

[jasey]

I think it's a nice addition for the project, I guess. If traffic is any indicator, though, it isn't a project that many people use. That isn't the fault of anyone working on the project but rather the concept itself. Take HabboRator which is also an archive of Habbo information and history. You can tell mounds of work were put in to that and you are lucky if anyone besides a few could even tell you what the site is for.

The wiki has a noble, valuable purpose nevertheless — to archive information about Habbo. I can guarantee you that if something like this is around when I am thirty-five (here's hoping it is) it will give me great feelings of nostalgia and pleasure. This kind of stuff should be saved, kept, archived, written about and detailed. Habbo has had a pretty dynamic environment over the years and it's nice to see aspects of it on a static page different from HabboRator in the sense that the minimalistic approach and the wiki environment make things better.

On topic, though, it isn't totally wise to use Habbox rare values or the same on HxW if you are a new user. That is a great portion of who use rare values and it isn't unfair to say that. The marketplace should always be given a check first because it updates much more instantly at the change of a price for some unforseen reason - it will always beat the Rare Values Team in speed. It still has its place, however, because rapid changes in price are not so common now that Habbo has mostly moved away from the exciting aura surrounding rare and super rare releases that we had in years past. Still, if someone starts buying up thrones quickly and the value was to change to a noted degree the marketplace will always reflect the change far before Habbox will.