US Presidential Elections 2012

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-day-live.html



So the election is tonight, pretty much a non-choice considering that either Romney or Obama will win... the the American people will lose with more debt, more war, more state and so on and so forth. The same story as usual I guess. But anywho, I thought it'd be interesting to have a vote and see why and who people on this forum are backing. As it is multiple choice you can pick more than one candidate, and i've included Ron Paul as a write in candidate as there is expected to be a big turnout of his supporters who will write him in on the ballot.

My thoughts are basically summed up here;

19.35 (14.35) Remember Ron Paul, the libertarian Texan congressman who fought Romney for the nomination? Even if with only a few hours til polls close he is still refusing to endorse the Republican standard bearer. He was asked whether it was finally time to back Romney and replied:

Oh not quite, because I don't think there's enough difference between the two candidates. I assume the victor today will be the status quo because the status quo has been up and there's been no competition and so we'll continue with basically the same policies that we've had for a long time.

Thoughts? who would you vote for/are voting for? will this election make much of a difference?

[Kardan]

Personally I'd vote for Obama, staying up tonight to watch the coverage, hopefully he just clinches it...

[Futz]

Barrack Obama has to win, Mitt Romney is just plain bad for everybody. However, if Gary Johnson had a chance I'd probably be rooting for him

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A part of me wants Obama to lose as i'd be overjoyed to see his puppy eyed supporters (and the man himself) absolutely outraged, but then i'd like Romney to lose for the same reasons but also in that if Romney loses this election then Rand Paul will have a shot at the nomination in 2016.

That's if America isn't completely bankrupt by 2016, a scenario that will happen under either Obama or Romney as they're identical.

[xxMATTGxx]

What time (our time) do we find out who has won the election?

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What time (our time) do we find out who has won the election?

The early hours, I think last time we had an idea at around 4am (as I sat up watching) but as this time it seems much closer then it'll all fall down to the results in the likes of swing states such as Ohio and Florida... so I think it's going to be a late night one.

[GommeInc]

What time (our time) do we find out who has won the election?

Isn't it something like 5 in the morning when the final result is announced?

I voted Obama, simply because Romney is an idiot PR wise.

[Kieran]

Well Ohio is the big one at 12:30. They go on until 6am though.

[FlyingJesus]

I'd have voted Gary Johnson as he actually plans to do what opinion polls have suggested people want done... and he isn't a murderous villain. The only difference I can see between Obama and Romney (other than their charisma, which is just a cloak so Obama gets away with everything he's done) is the healthcare deal, where one wants to force everyone to buy mandatory healthcare even if they can't afford it or don't want it and one doesn't.

It's almost certainly going to be Obama again I think, but I'd like to see Romney take it just so that the blind Democrat supporters turn against the decisions that Obama's made - all the wars, drones, personal assassinations, NDAA, Guantanamo, "war on drugs", the list goes on. I don't really care who the scapegoat is as long as enough people are able to put pressure on them to stop it

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Somebody posted this on the Telegraph comments section and I think it's more or less the truth (not exactly sure), here;

This election will be decided in the swing states by turnout! If the GOP turns out 4% more voters than it did in 2008, OR, if 2% less Democrats and 2% more Republicans vote than in 2008 in six key states, Romney will win!

I find it hard to believe that Democrats will be as motivated to vote this election as they were in 2008. They don't have to "vote" for Romney. All that matters is that they don't vote for Obama. There are certainly many conservative democrats who were both disgusted and embarrassed by the Obama, Reid, Pelossi trio.. This was demonstrated clearly in the ass kicking received by the democrats in the 2010 House elections. It is that simple!

Steve Forbes (of Forbes) is calling it for Romney, interesting anyway as he seems confident and is a big name.

......& couldn't agree more with what FlyingJesus just wrote.