Removal of British Flag in Belfast

[Andii]

So tonight some *****s decided that they would have a discussion on the Union Jack flag flying above Belfast city all and ofc Sinn Fein (disgusting noobs) have won and have voted to remove the flag


Their reason was apparently it would bring the community totogether after reading many status from friends Facebook Belfast is becoming a massive riot at midnight :/ o the joy smart one scum bringing back the troubles -.-

---------- Post added 03-12-2012 at 11:29 PM ----------

Noooooooooooo


omg the beer tent has been destroyed fml

[Absently]

well, not everyone from the north considers themselves british, so it's only fair.

[Kardan]

well, not everyone from the north considers themselves british, so it's only fair.

I don't get this to be honest. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and the UK's flag is the Union Jack, so why should it be removed?

If I go over to Germany, and decide I don't like the German flag, does that mean I have a right to say it should be removed?

[FlyingJesus]

well, not everyone from the north considers themselves british, so it's only fair.

Not really considering like it or not they ARE British

[-:Undertaker:-]

well, not everyone from the north considers themselves british, so it's only fair.

Not everybody in mainland Britain considers themselves British either - indeed, I don't really consider myself English - only British. Then you have a very small minority who consider themselves something called 'European' and then you have others who consider themselves Somalian, Pakistani or Islamic-Arab. On the basis of that argument, should all British or English flags be removed from across the country? no.

The majority in Northern Ireland consider themselves British, something nationalists find hard to swallow hence why a large proportion of them embarked on a campaign of terror, targeting innocent subjects (including children) to bring about their minority demands. Not only that, but they refuse to engage in a referendum on the subject and why? because they know they will lose against the majority.

The British flag ought to fly above British soil should the majority consider themselves British - like the Falklands. Northern Ireland is British. Ulster stood with the British Crown and rejected the Republic; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Covenant - and still, to this day, it rejects the Republic.

[Absently]

I don't get this to be honest. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and the UK's flag is the Union Jack, so why should it be removed?

If I go over to Germany, and decide I don't like the German flag, does that mean I have a right to say it should be removed?

idk what statistics are, but i'm sure it's almost half and half somewhat. yeah if it was like 80% considered themselves to be british, then sure fly the flag. for all i know, it could be a huge majority considering themselves british but idk. i am from the republic and obviously will think it's fair lol

+ pls am not arguing 'cus i don't care enough

[-:Undertaker:-]

idk what statistics are, but i'm sure it's almost half and half somewhat. yeah if it was like 80% considered themselves to be british, then sure fly the flag. for all i know, it could be a huge majority considering themselves british but idk. i am from the republic and obviously will think it's fair lol

If you want to annex Northern Ireland into the Republic (which I think you do, but which you haven't made clear) - would you then be up for removing all Irish flags from across Ireland on the basis that a large proportion who lived in the north (30% odd of the total population of the entire 'United Ireland') didn't consider themselves Irish?

Somehow I don't think you would. So please, don't expect we Britons to do the same either.

[Kardan]

idk what statistics are, but i'm sure it's almost half and half somewhat. yeah if it was like 80% considered themselves to be british, then sure fly the flag. for all i know, it could be a huge majority considering themselves british but idk. i am from the republic and obviously will think it's fair lol

Half and half of what? Religion? Religion does not define nationality.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Half and half of what? Religion? Religion does not define nationality.

Here's a long term trend of the polls for the nationalists of opinion in Northern Ireland,



The vast and ever increasing majority of people consider themselves British and see the Union flag as their own.

I daresay it's even higher now in 2012, probably around the 80% mark.

yeah if it was like 80% considered themselves to be british, then sure fly the flag.

Glad we've come to agreement.

[Absently]

btw, no i don't care about northern ireland being part of the republic, not everyone wants to so. it's only a flag at the end of the day, dunno why it's such a major concern. at the end of the day, no ones asking people to feel like they're irish. and no, not religion wise but nationalists and unionists wise. the sinn fein fairly won i'm sure. i'm not going to post anymore lol