No Justice in the Habbox Value System

[HolyWar]

For anyone that has a minute or two to spare.

I've worked for Habbox on 2 seperate occasions in the rare value department and what I've seen is mismanagement, lack of creativity and absolutely no new implementations or even ideas to making the values more accurate. I don't know what credentials .ggy:. posesses in order to hold a title of Rare values manager other than the fact he was someones friend and they decided to give him a job. The rare values you end up seeing on the homepage are guessed and the final listed value isn't made on any mathematical conclusion. I've seen Head value reporters who consistenly go around scamming people in "Creds for rare deals". The manager of the RVR department has been an active member on Habbox forum for longer than myself and has a post count of 140, sure looks like he is putting 110% into the job.

After being informed that " I did not pass the RVR trial " I wanted to know why? I had worked previously in the RVR department and was commended for having accurate and fair values and this time that obviously would not appear to have been the case. RVR staff complain about not having enough reporters when they will remove your status as an RVR without a valid reason.

There are some staff in the Rare Value Department that do work hard such as Smiddy just to name one, although there are many that just simply don't work or provide any benefit to the users except for the fact of their "title / status".

You might as well not have a rare value department because you don't calculate the averages correctly and you are completely influencing and directing the values with "mere assumptions" after receiving a PM of what someone says they should display. The RVR department has been one of the areas that Habbox has been in need of revamping and a complete overhaul to make the system more accurate and respected. When a department is not functioning correctly after many attempts to make it better the first thing any organization or corporation does is change the executive staff before changing the small guys.

I'm sure .ggy:. was given his position based on friendship and not based on the fact he was good with rare values and good with understanding the market and tools that RVR's need. I don't care who I will offend with this, but it's not the small guys " The RVR's " that should constantly be replaced, it's the manager of the department first and then you should make your way down the list.

Edit by Urges - Thread closed - It is being abused, people are being rude and out of order. Sorry

[Smiddy]

When Steve330 resigned as Rare values manager earleir this year there could of only been 2 contenders for the new title as Rare values manager, Tht was myself and .GGY:. because we were the next in line of title ranks.

At this time though, i had the unfortunate accident of being permanent banned [ ] But, Oggy deserved the job because he put a hell of a lot of time into the department.

the reason why you didnt pass your trial i'll send via a PM if you wish

Just for the record, i dnt actually feel as though i do as much work as Oggy.

[8Freak8]

I have to admit I do think the Disco sign value was taken a bit too quickly.

Im not sure how you could have worked out that the values are guessed or the averages aren't worked out properly, so obviously there can be no comments on that.

[Carlos]

Great post Keith, i've always thought Habbox's values are sometimes stupid and the management couldn't care less.

[HolyWar]

I have to admit I do think the Disco sign value was taken a bit too quickly.

Im not sure how you could have worked out that the values are guessed or the averages aren't worked out properly, so obviously there can be no comments on that.

Well, like everything in life that has a value there are mathematical averages and Standard operating procedures that are in place in order for fairness. It's not like someone is actually sitting there with a calculator averaging the values based on multiple reports. Someone briefly scans through the reports and then decides if a value should be changed and gives a ballpark figure as opposed to actually calculating the value through a mathematic approach. This results in a biased single opinion and a difference of 1 hc in value to a rare trader could cause a catastrophic loss in worth if they posess multiple quantites of that item. The values are not taken seriously enough and they should rightfully so be taken more seriously considering you are actually playing with real money and are fortunate enough to be the one people turn to when looking for values.

Yes Tom, Please PM me the reason and I'm quite insulted that other people would know a reason when I wasnt' even provided with one myself. That is another unprofessional occurence considering other people are aware and I am not even aware myself.

[Smiddy]

Great post Keith, i've always thought Habbox's values are sometimes stupid and the management couldn't care less.

I am part of The RVR management ya know Carlos?

And we're updating the values more frequently now, so expect the Disco signs value and the sports furni valuse to be upadted more frequently

[Carlos]

I am part of The RVR management ya know Carlos?

And we're updating the values more frequently now, so expect the Disco signs value and the sports furni valuse to be upadted more frequently

I know you work hard Smiddy, I'm talking about others like Oggy and Mit.

[Smiddy]

as much as you guys may wish to say that Oggy isnt a good contributer towards the squad, you would be surprised.

And mit is a Head Rare Value Reporter who sends myself and Oggy at least 1 set of values a day, seemng as the other 2 HRVR's are currently Absent

[HolyWar]

And one of the HRVR's I watched scam people twice saying he would buy them credits and then didn't. He actually whispered to me after he scammed them admitting it to me, but I didn't want to feel like a rat so I never reported him even though the evidence was there and sorry but I personally don't like people who scam.

.ggy:. may be doing a good job but from what I have witnessed the Rare value department has been in need of a serious overhaul for quite some time and there is no one better than him to be the one who leads that change.

Like I said to you before why does someone have to pass a "trial" in order to give their opinion on a rare value? You should make it so that anyone who posts a value on the forum has their input included in deciding a rares value. There's a reason alot of people feel that Habbox rigs the prices and that's because not enough effort is put into making them accurate and too many things are overlooked. For months people have been saying "we are making them more accurate" and I don't doubt that people are trying but surely there is a lack of accomplishment because people still don't have faith in the Habbox value system.

The disco sign was rushed yesterday onto the values page, there wasn't even time allowed for the reporters to get a good feel of what most trades consisted of. It went on so quick that it influenced the price and that is not something that you guys should be doing, it should have been placed on the site later instead of trying to keep up with the value. As I've said before, Habbox should remove the value page for 1 week and let people decide what they truly feel the value of items are without the direct influence of Habbox values.

[8Freak8]

Smiddy if some of the RVRs are away maybe you could open applications for more?