Nigel Farage would axe 'much of' race discrimination laws

[Chippiewill]

UKIP would scrap much of the legislation designed to prevent racial discrimination in work, party leader Nigel Farage has said.

He was speaking in a Channel 4 documentary to be shown next week.

He says the fact that an employer cannot choose between a Briton and somebody from overseas is "ludicrous".

His comments have been heavily criticised, with Downing Street saying they are "deeply concerning" and Labour branding them "shocking".

Mr Farage was speaking in an interview with the former head of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, Trevor Phillips, for a documentary called Things We Won't Say About Race That Are True.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31846453

I think Nigel just pulled a Godfrey Bloom.

[GommeInc]

Not the finest reasoning. Foreign employees are very good. The Belgians and French are great assets to many businesses in London. Heck, if we sorted out our education system maybe we wouldn't have to rely on overseas help.

[-:Undertaker:-]

His words/what he meant are being twisted YET AGAIN by the press.

My comments to Trevor Phillips were lauding the progress of race relations and equality in this country -- so as to say that racial discrimination in the workplace is almost unheard of nowadays. Britain's media should be proud of this fact instead of trying to do it down.

And I suggest the REAL racists in our society are those who hear me say "British" and think "white". I'm the only leader arguing for Britain's employers to favour British workers, no matter what their colour. And I must say, given the unemployment rates amongst young people , I'm now the only party leader standing up for them, black, white, or otherwise.

What I said on race law was lauding progress of race relations/equality. UK media should be proud of this instead of trying to do it down.

Wilful misinterpretation of what I said. I'm talking Britons, whatever their heritage, being discriminated against in favour of EU migrants.

I said on @BBCr4today that I've made no comments on race. I am the only party leader standing up for British workers, whatever their colour.

And I would suggest the REAL racists in our society are the ones who hear me say "British" and think "white". Deeply concerning.

So basically what he's said is that racism in Britain is more or less thankfully gone, and that racial discrimination laws and discrimination laws in general are now often used by people who genuinely have been sacked for doing a bad job but who play the race/whatever card to sue the employer in retaliation.

All sounds perfectly acceptable and sensible to me. Where's the controversy to be had?

Australian employers cannot hire immigrant foreign employees until they can prove they cannot get an Australian born applicant _ Vote UKIP British Jobs for British Workers

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I am pretty sure that Australia operates a system whereby a job vacancy must be advertised for (I think) six months and that only Australian citizens can apply for it. If the position can't be filled (meaning nobody applies for it) then it is opened up for non citizens. Australia can get away with it and rightly so in my opinion, so we should be able to also. Another tick in the box for UKIP.

Amen, his comments have nothing to do with race nor does the Australian points system Farage wants to implement in Great Britain.

[Okeanos]

His words/what he meant are being twisted YET AGAIN by the press.





So basically what he's said is that racism in Britain is more or less thankfully gone, and that racial discrimination laws and discrimination laws in general are now often used by people who genuinely have been sacked for doing a bad job but who play the race/whatever card to sue the employer in retaliation.

All sounds perfectly acceptable and sensible to me. Where's the controversy to be had?

Amen, his comments have nothing to do with race nor does the Australian points system Farage wants to implement in Great Britain.

Is there anything a UKIP offical can say that you won't defend? You would have been a Nazi in 1930s Germany I bet. Why are you so devoted to UKIP? Any reasonably intelligent person knows that the UK can never and will never leave the EU, so why are you wasting your time? Time to grow up I think.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Is there anything a UKIP offical can say that you won't defend? You would have been a Nazi in 1930s Germany I bet. Why are you so devoted to UKIP?

You haven't addressed anything I have just said.

And as a libertarian-conservative i'm the literal polar opposite to a national socialist, so yeah.

Any reasonably intelligent person knows that the UK can never and will never leave the EU, so why are you wasting your time? Time to grow up I think.

And what are tomorrows lottery numbers?

British parliamentary democracy and sovereignty survived hundreds of years of attempted invasions, we will defeat a paper bureaucracy. No doubt about it.

[Kardan]

Giving someone a job over someone else purely because they are British is definitely not a good thing in my books, so it's a good thing we'll never see this enforced.

[peteyt]

Giving someone a job over someone else purely because they are British is definitely not a good thing in my books, so it's a good thing we'll never see this enforced.

The problem is that sometimes people from overseas get the jobs before us or so it seems. I don't think I'll be voting UKIP, I don't really know who if anyone to vote for but unemployment is an issue and yet more and more people come into our country

[Kardan]

The problem is that sometimes people from overseas get the jobs before us or so it seems. I don't think I'll be voting UKIP, I don't really know who if anyone to vote for but unemployment is an issue and yet more and more people come into our country

And so they should if they're better qualified for the job.

And unemployment may be an issue, but unemployment is at it's lowest levels for years and the percentage of people working in the UK is at a record high since records began in 1971. So we've certainly had it much, much worse.

[FlyingJesus]

The problem is that sometimes people from overseas get the jobs before us or so it seems

Yes but not because they're foreign

[-:Undertaker:-]

As Gordon Brown said: "British jobs for British workers".

Every other country, like Australia, puts its people first and so should we.

And so they should if they're better qualified for the job.

If they are better qualified in terms of nurses, doctors and scientists then sure, nobody argues that we shouldn't allow them into the country to settle in numbers that we can manage: provided they have financial independence, good health and skills that we actually require in that they do not flood the domestic labour market. But in regards to most migrant work, as in unskilled work such as picking vegtables, there's really not much skill required that would make a foreign worker any better than a Briton doing the work: in those jobs Britons should be put first I am sure you would agree.

If farmers and low skilled places of work cannot secure enough British workers (which I think is often overblown but which will happen out there) then perhaps many of them, in order to bring in migrants, should show that they have first raised the salary so it makes it attractive to Britons who have the disadvantage compared to foreign migrants of having a house of their own and a family to feed.

I have no idea why anybody would oppose an Australian points based system as Farage is proposing.

I am pretty sure that Australia operates a system whereby a job vacancy must be advertised for (I think) six months and that only Australian citizens can apply for it. If the position can't be filled (meaning nobody applies for it) then it is opened up for non citizens. Australia can get away with it and rightly so in my opinion, so we should be able to also.

What's wrong with that? It's common sense.

And unemployment may be an issue, but unemployment is at it's lowest levels for years and the percentage of people working in the UK is at a record high since records began in 1971. So we've certainly had it much, much worse.

A lot of unemployment is off the books, not disputing the economy is better at the moment than a few years ago though.

Yes but not because they're foreign

Numerous companies have been caught advertising solely in Eastern European countries.

I haven't a problem with foreign workers coming in, scientists and all that are entirely welcome: it is unskilled labour that is the problem as most of the jobs are unskilled labour which migrants come in for. The point is, the system now has to stop where British companies can literally freeze the wages for years on end because they know that if the British won't do it for that wage rate (simply because they can't afford to) then they can ship in hundreds of thousands of workers who will live 6 to a room.