Seniors.

[-Nick]

I saw roughly a couple of weeks ago @Shonly; disapproved of someone having 2+ management positions so they can concentrate on one department at a time. But I think certainly Senior's should have no more then 2 positions in senior role as they just lose the concentration on the department. If the had 1 senior role they could put more effort and make the department stronger instead of having 4 weaker departments.

If there were 4 departments A, B, C, D and Matt was the senior for all:
A = Matt = 25% effort
B = Matt = 25% effort
C = Matt = 25% effort
D = Matt = 25% effort
totalling: 100% effort.

However if it was:
A = Matt = 100% effort
B = Steve = 100% effort
C = Jeff = 100% effort
D = Chris = 100% effort
totalling: 400% effort.

Just seem's that you will get a better output if there was 4 different seniors compared to just the one. In a real life perspective, if Tim Cook was the only person running all the departments of Apple (Support, Factory's, Shop's etc), I doubt the company would go anywhere as it each individual department needs concentration.

Thoughts?

[Chris]

I sort of see where you are coming from but generally there isn't a problem with people having multiple senior roles. It's also not as easy as you think to find separate people for different roles. It just comes down to who is suitable for the job.

[Drew]

I can't speak for everyone else, but in Graphics, the way things work is that the senior does most of the tedious administrative jobs while the manager focuses on "making the department stronger". That's not to say that the senior isn't encouraged to help with events or suggest ideas, but in general, it's the amount of effort put in by the manager that determines whether the department progresses or not. So yes, I agree that someone should not have multiple managerial roles. I don't mind if my senior has multiple roles though - @Zealoux; is doing a fine job at the moment juggling Senior Graphics Designer, Senior Pixel Artist and Head DJ. At the end of the day, you'd hope that someone would have the decency to step down or resign if they know they're not contributing enough.

[Inseriousity.]

By that logic, we'd have to move to a '1 department only' policy because you're only putting 50% effort in
choose comps

[Bloop]

dont u dare target tommy ill bite you

[Brad]

I am going to target those in 4+ departments. (Only because I've been there before...) I honestly do not see how people can invest that much time to a fansite, and in the long run; how much are actually doing something for the better. I do agree with Nick on this one.
Maybe not the 1 department only, but if you're getting more responsibility then it should be mandatory for people to balance out their workload.. I know when I was manager and just a normal staff, it actually was difficult to invest in the other department.

[Bloop]

dont agm like take care of almost 5 departments? and gm take care of all.

damn chris ure not giving ur 100% bye

in all seriousness, there are minimums to abide to. if u can cope, why not? they will have to go if they cant devote time anyway

[Empired]

I see the logic but think it's a little daft in practice. No one can define 100% effort in a voluntary Habbox role. For some people, 100% effort means doing their minimums and doing them to the best of their ability, for other people 100% effort means no sleep ever.
There is not a simple sum that goes
(1) person divided by number of departments (4) they're in = amount of effort into each department (25%)
that's just not how it works lol

If a manager thinks a senior's effort is declining because they're in too many roles, they can voice their concerns. If they see no difference, there's no need for a change.

[lawrawrrr]

If someone can do the workload, let them do it! I guess the manager rule is because managers are expected to put in a lot more time cos running is harder (the step from senior to manager is huge), but senior roles are usually a lot similar to staff, with a few extra responsibilities.

If someone was slacking at their role(s), whether they have 1 or 6, they'd be fired.


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[Sho]

If a Senior isn't pulling their weight then the manager should pick up on it and sort it out. In 2014 I was Asst Comps Manager, Head DJ, Head News Reporter and a Senior EO at the same time, but it doesn't mean that I only put 25% effort into each department. If someone has the time to handle the workload, then I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to.