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    Irene Zisblatt was one of the survivors in the film, "The Last Days". Look up her testimony to see how ridiculous it is. I can destroy her testimony with her own words. In the documentary, Irene Zisblatt claims she was about 9 when she was expelled from school in 1939, and wikipedia lists her birthday as December 28th, 1929. Hmm, Auschwitz prisoners needed to be at least 15 in order to work, and the last train going there was in 1944 in the summer... so Irene would have been younger than 15 upon arrival and thus immediately murdered. How the hell did she survive? :S

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    maybe...... wikipedia is wrong

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    helga weiss was 14 and she told them she was 15 so she didnt die m8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallcoolguy700 View Post
    In the documentary, Irene Zisblatt claims she was about 9 when she was expelled from school in 1939, and wikipedia lists her birthday as December 28th, 1929.
    That adds up fine :S for any term-time day in 1939 she would have been 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallcoolguy700 View Post
    Hmm, Auschwitz prisoners needed to be at least 15 in order to work, and the last train going there was in 1944 in the summer... so Irene would have been younger than 15 upon arrival and thus immediately murdered. How the hell did she survive? :S
    Because they weren't all immediately killed. Literally 5 seconds of Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfish View Post
    helga weiss was 14 and she told them she was 15 so she didnt die m8
    Helga Weiss could have very well been 15 since an exact date is not known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallcoolguy700 View Post
    Helga Weiss could have very well been 15 since an exact date is not known.
    if you read her diary you'll note that she talks in depth about her age at the time

    not all children were killed, proper checks weren't in place. it didn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    That adds up fine :S for any term-time day in 1939 she would have been 9.



    Because they weren't all immediately killed. Literally 5 seconds of Google.
    Yes, if you were the age of at least 15, you were considered fit enough to work, whereas if you were not, you were considered a child and unfit to work. This is the exact reason as to why Anne Frank survived the train unloading, because she had a birthday before her arrival and was thus 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfish View Post
    if you read her diary you'll note that she talks in depth about her age at the time

    not all children were killed, proper checks weren't in place. it didn't matter.
    If you're so sure her diary gives an exact date, then go ahead and cite it.

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    my mistake, she was 15! but my recollection of her not being asked her age was right, so if irene seemed more adult then it's entirely possible that she slipped through the net and was bundled with the older children too.

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    I'm all for debating but these constant threads whining over Anne Frank are becoming so tiring and dull, would you just let it ***** go.
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    She explains it in her account. Her parents were also gassed immediately despite being of working age.
    In the book "The Last Days," Irene tells how her mother gave her advice, before the train left the ghetto, that saved her from being immediately selected for the gas chamber at Birkenau.The following quote is from the book entitled "The Last Days":
    And she told me to say I was twenty years old - I was only thirteen - because then I would be sent to work in a factory where I would get food and I would survive.
    The following quote is from a newspaper article written by Nate Hubbard after Zisblatt gave a talk to students in Bland County, Virginia on March 9, 2009:But the most gripping part of Zisblatt's account came when she told of narrowly escaping the gas chamber. She said she was selected along with approximately 1,500 other women to be killed. When the prisoners were herded into the gas chamber, though, there wasn't room for them all. Zisblatt said she wound up right in the doorway, clinging to a piece of wood as her fingernails were ripped off causing blood to gush from the tips of her fingers. When the door couldn't be closed with Zisblatt blocking the way, she was flung out of the chamber.
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