Cabinet revolt and block Covid-19 restrictions

[-:Undertaker:-]

Cabinet revolt and block new Covid-19 restrictions

Today the British Cabinet is rumoured to have blocked any new restrictions in a meeting that lasted hours

It's pretty clear from that clip that Boris has lost control of the Covid response and it's the Cabinet who are now controlling the Covid response. He didn't spend half a day in there because he wanted to come out and say "no change".

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) December 20, 2021

Pleased the Cabinet and PM (recognising where majority opinion is in Parliamentary Party) are now listening to their backbench MPs & for once pushed back on the scaremongering by the lockdown fanatics. It seems the 100 strong backbench rebellion last week has made a difference.

— Esther McVey (@EstherMcVey1) December 20, 2021

Times splash:

At least 10 cabinet ministers are resisting calls by scientific advisers for pre-Christmas covid restrictions by questioning accuracy of official modelling

They include Rishi Sunak, Kwasi Kwarteng, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Grant Shapps & Liz Trusshttps://t.co/GGzYSCAm90

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) December 20, 2021

The UK government has a choice between believing in vaccines and believing in quack modelling. No country with such a high % of antibodies from vaccines and prior infection should be considering any restrictions on freedom.

— Christopher Snowdon (@cjsnowdon) December 20, 2021

I know the Covid fanatics on this forum will be devastated, but finally it looks like my side is coming through. Earlier this week we had the huge rebellion against masks and vaccine passports by 100+ Tory MPs, then we had the resignation of Lord Frost over restrictions and now we have the Cabinet telling the PM "No."

I guess the fanatics on here will all just have to impose absurd restrictions on themselves. Everyone else though? See you all down at the pub.

[lawrawrrr]

except noone actually knows if the cabinet "revolted" against boris or who was for or against what. oooh the song "room where it happens" from hamilton comes to mind.

It's super gross to say people on here will be "devastated" to not be locked away from their family and friends over Christmas for a second year in a row. Sometimes, some of us put away our selfish wants for the needs of the vulnerable and the overall health of the nation. It doesn't mean we're cheering on for a lockdown - literally noone would CHOOSE a lockdown.

What's AWFUL imo is the message of "wellllllll we're not gonna lock down now but we're gonna review constantly" which leaves at least me and my friends (because I know some people don't care and the message won't affect their lives, work, family or festive plans) in a state of panic and not knowing, things could change at any point with no notice. I'd rather be told "in a week we're locking down" than "we're locking down in 24 hours" as seems reasonably likely now.

So glad I'm working over Christmas and having to prepare 16 different action plans because the gov won't commit to a plan.

[-:Undertaker:-]

@lawrawrrr;

Can you just tell me one thing. Just one thing.

When will this end, or are you quite happy to live like this forever?

[lawrawrrr]

No I cannot tell you that in fact because I am not a scientist and do not know enough about the projected future of the virus to speculate on “when it will end”

From what I *do* know it seems most likely scientists will develop better vaccine defences as they learn more and if I have to go get a booster every year to stop me either suffering from, or spreading, bad symptoms I am more than happy to do that yes.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No I cannot tell you that in fact because I am not a scientist and do not know enough about the projected future of the virus to speculate on “when it will end”

But the scientists don't seem to have a clue either.

Here are the SAGE predictions vs what actually happened.

https://data.spectator.co.uk/category/sage-scenarios

From what I *do* know it seems most likely scientists will develop better vaccine defences as they learn more and if I have to go get a booster every year to stop me either suffering from, or spreading, bad symptoms I am more than happy to do that yes.

So you're willing to delegate how you live your life to SAGE when they come up with outrageously incorrect predictions as I posted above?