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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Like I said, Jamesy had no experience and the forum is struggling, so by Garions way of thinking, an ex-FM should have got the job.

    Oh no wait, different set of rules for everyone.
    I don't understand how you're able to keep track of what rules apply to who and when, it's all a very big jumble, sometimes I think they just make it up as they go!

    (On a side note, I've sent you over a PM, you must read it or annihilation shall occur)


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    This shows the state Habbox is in and no I do not come to these threads to take the mick out of Habbox all the time because I've been here for many years and I do still care. I'd think Shar didn't make HxHD the most popular room on Habbo and exactly, why not get Ben, Hayley or Scott back in this position as I saw that they achieved more and all have had experience + are still pretty active. It's quite silly, at least pretend you care by giving her super staff first, but she is simply a mere trialist- and by no accounts is the best.
    Last edited by Grig; 10-10-2010 at 09:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixt View Post
    I can see your point, but my point is that currently no member of HxHD Staff have shown the dedication or hard work that justifies a promotion. I don't want to belittle the staff, they all do a great job, but are all currently away / busy and are unable to demonstrate the dedication that the department needs at this point in time to ensure it's improvement. Thus, we are caught in between a rock and a hard place and a difficult decision had to be made.

    However, I recognise (as above) that it's a bit of a crap situation for other members of staff. My problem is that currently I don't think members of staff are being given opportunities to develop or hone the skills they have to demonstrate to move up the ranks, part of this responsibility lies with their managers and I do think there have been failures across the board in regard to this. We need to ensure that management are constantly evaluating and feeding back on their staff so as to put them in a position to take the mantle should it be necessary. 'High achievers' and possible future successors should be spotted and honed as necessary.

    Although I should stress that this responsibility doesn't rest solely with current management. The staff themselves, across all departments, have to first prove themselves capable.

    If this happens then we can avoid situations such as this in the future.
    That is one hell of a big insult to HxHD Super Staff. How the hell can you say 'they are unable to prove they are dedicated' - and then go and hire someone who RESIGNED. If you resign, that is hardly 'dedicated'?

    Considering as HxHD staff you are supposed to be in the room for TEN hours a week.. if that's not dedicated I don't know what is. You normally have totally sensible posts - but that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milestone View Post
    That is one hell of a big insult to HxHD Super Staff. How the hell can you say 'they are unable to prove they are dedicated' - and then go and hire someone who RESIGNED. If you resign, that is hardly 'dedicated'?

    Considering as HxHD staff you are supposed to be in the room for TEN hours a week.. if that's not dedicated I don't know what is. You normally have totally sensible posts - but that?
    It seems to be his habit lately which is unfortunate. i.e. removing me from WC for saying it should be closed. Then actually closing it the very next day. Atleast he apologised via PM though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Also Garion saying that currently no HxHD staff are good enough for the job or dedicated enough is plan rude and a slap in their faces.

    I am sure you would not like it if MattGarner and Jin said this publically "No don't promote Garion as he is not enough and isn't dedicated". Actually I know for a fact you would hate it after what you said to me on MSN.

    If anything you owe them an apology.
    Quote Originally Posted by :Lindsey View Post
    Oh no, but Garion said he doesn't have enough time to help someone with no experience.
    Okay for a start let me say I am sorry that I have across this way because that wasn't my intention at all. It was terribly late and I clearly wasn't wording my posts clearly. I never once said none of them were good enough, what I was trying to say is this:

    Habbox is well and truly up creek number 2 without a paddle or even a boat at this point in time. I'm not just talking about HxHD, I am talking about most departments here and Habbox as a whole. Currently, and it is something that have been highlighted over and over to them in the private forums and in feedback threads, a significant proportion of the HxHD Staff are currently busy and are unable to offer the time required of them as normal / super staff - because of things such as school and so forth. Completely not their fault, and I do not think any less of them or doubt their ability because of it. When I said "dedication", this is what I was trying to say. It was just awfully worded.

    We were posed with this situation - HxHD in dire need of an assistant, the current staff terribly busy with a variety of issues. Shar had earlier decided to return as a trialist, because she made a mistake in resigning and she realised she did have the time. Faced with a difficult decision, it was considered best that we get in an experienced manager from the start. Someone who we knew could fall straight into it and start addressing the problems immediately.

    When I said I had no time, well that was just outright wrong of me. Worded completely wrongly again and I profusely apologise to any offence caused to anyone. It's not a case of anyone being incapable, I suppose the decision was taken because it was the easy, less risky option when compared with promotion someone without the experience. Sometimes though risks need to be taken, and I think it's about time both myself and others stop resting on Habbox's laurels and start making the risky decisions that are needed now before it is too late.

    In retrospect, it was an unfair decision and maybe we should have taken the risk (although I don't mean that Shar isn't capable). Ultimately though it's not my responsibility to appoint or remove Managers, I'm just trying to explain the reasoning behind the whole situation here (albeit poorly at first).

    Shar and I have spoken this morning and she has taken the decision in light of this feedback to resign from the position and she feels that she has been undermined by her department which does make it impossible to manage the department effectively. Definitely in my opinion unfortunate but it certainly does resolve this situation - so thread closed. She really doesn't need any more posts making her feel like crap.

    I am sure we will now learn from this and begin to take risks when appointing managers in order to ensure that everyone is given a fair and equal opportunity and, furthermore, I have always been a great believer that sometimes new, fresh management is what a department needs to reinvigorate it. Hopefully HxHD will be given the opportunity for this to happen now.

    Oh and to add @ Milestone, my point was that very few HxHD Staff are currently meeting the ten hour target. Most are nearing four.
    Last edited by Nixt; 10-10-2010 at 10:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garion
    no member of HxHD Staff have shown the dedication or hard work that justifies a promotion
    That is simply rude and you would not appreciate it if Jin or Matt said it about you. Actually you have been pissed off before when some members have said it. What you owe them is a clear and simple apology without any excuses.

    Also if David lacks the time to run HxHD maybe he should also step down after the new assistant is trained.

    I wanted to reply as it was quite unfair locking it thus stopping replies. But hey I will probs get a infraction if I leave it open, so thread locked.

    Edited by Sarah (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not reverse Moderator/Administrator actions.
    Last edited by Sarah; 10-10-2010 at 06:56 PM.

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