PS3 delayed in Europe (and beyond)

[Sony.Com]

They also took the whole general concept from the PS2. Dvd player , same general control design ( button and joystick wise AND placement ) , sony came out with PS2 long before xbox come out. Only when the ps2 came out was when microsoft was really intrested in getting into the market when they saw how much money sony was making.

[SimplyTech]

In what ways? Microsoft made online gaming on consoles mainstream with Xbox Live - something that is now being copied by Sony and Nintendo with their PNP and WiiConnect24 serivces. Microsoft also improved controller design with the first Xbox with better-placed analogue sticks, and the Xbox has also done a hell of a lot for the FPS genre on consoles.

Not true with nintendo, Nintendo always had plans for online originally it was planned for the dieing N64 but they then decided it wouldnt be popular enough so they waited till the gamecube then developed it and it basically failed due to lack of supported games. I mean afterall nintendo invented wifi.

Also johnz you say ms steals stuff off sony. What has sony ever invented?

[---MAD---]

Well if you really want it bad I am sure the internet will help . I am sure there will be a few sites you can buy the ps3 and get it shipped to where you are :p.

[HUGECOOL]

They also took the whole general concept from the PS2. Dvd player , same general control design ( button and joystick wise AND placement ) , sony came out with PS2 long before xbox come out. Only when the ps2 came out was when microsoft was really intrested in getting into the market when they saw how much money sony was making.

Which general concept was that? The Playstation 2 was released as an incremental upgrade of the original PLaystation only because the actual Playstation console created a fanbase larger than expected, thus, the PS2 gained instant popularity. "/

You can say Microsoft stole DVD from Sony, but then again, DVD was a new concept at the release of these two consoles, and DVD originated from Toshiba, not Sony. Also, you can argue that Microsoft stole the joystick from the PS2, but interestingly enough, the N64 had a joystick long before the PS2, and even longer than that, the Atari game console sported a joystick as well. So, who stole what again? Microsoft has been interested in the gaming market long before Sony. Microsoft had tried buying off Nintendo in the past in order to go into console gaming, but finally decided to make their own console instead.

You can put water in a glass, but you can't claim you invented water. :/

Well if you really want it bad I am sure the internet will help . I am sure there will be a few sites you can buy the ps3 and get it shipped to where you are .

Of course the Internet will have them. Most people that are buying a PS3 aren't doing so beacause they want one for themselves, but to resell it for a profit. I suppose if you're desperate enough you'll shell out all the money in the world for one, but I'd rather wait until I'm convinced it's worth it. Besides, I just bought a $3000 computer and I'm not really desperate for the graphical power the PS3 has to offer.

[Bear-Max]

Not true with nintendo, Nintendo always had plans for online originally it was planned for the dieing N64 but they then decided it wouldnt be popular enough so they waited till the gamecube then developed it and it basically failed due to lack of supported games. I mean afterall nintendo invented wifi.

Also johnz you say ms steals stuff off sony. What has sony ever invented?

Regardless of Nintendo's plans, a centralised online system was done first (successfully) by Microsoft, and that has had an impact on the new generation of consoles.

Plus, I'd like to see some proof that Nintendo invented Wi-Fi, because I don't believe that for a second.