Mac VS Windows - [Closes 13/08/07]

[GommeInc]

kinda untrue. windows sidebar is just like the dashboard, which came out before VISTA. there was probably some linux equiv before that but eh. the search thing (spotlight on mac) was out first on a mac, probably earlier on a linux system again.

And my sidebar crashed without me installing anything to the computer (bar MSN + OpenOffice), or even adding anything to sidebar. So unless my VISTA was installed wrong by Packard-Bell, then saying that it crashes because its my fault is incorrect.

Ah I just realised the mistake. The 'their' meant Mac, not Windows. Most of their i.e. Mac copy most of their ideas and rebrand. I think I read somewhere that Windows had sidebars etc in their very early system. I can't remember the exact name, I shall have a look now for it.

Hmmmm, weird error. Does it work now? It's very rare to have that sort of error.

[Mentor]

kinda untrue. windows sidebar is just like the dashboard, which came out before VISTA. there was probably some linux equiv before that but eh. the search thing (spotlight on mac) was out first on a mac, probably earlier on a linux system again.

And my sidebar crashed without me installing anything to the computer (bar MSN + OpenOffice), or even adding anything to sidebar. So unless my VISTA was installed wrong by Packard-Bell, then saying that it crashes because its my fault is incorrect.

Windows is as good as mac though imo.

I believe the original dashboard side bar and widgets stuff was actually an application rather than part of any O/S, i cant actually remember which "application it was though as i cant get konfabilator out of my head, which could be the one, although equally may not "/

Also its not really unexpected for there to be issues with vista, all that can really be done is just wait for sp1 etc which with luck will patch alot of these inital problems "/

O/S wize id have to agree mac and windows are pretty much equal, my main issue with macs etc is really just the way jobs and apple itself act, in the blatent lies on there ads and constant attacks on other O/s's "/

Alos it is true one of the very early windows o/s's probably 2 or 3 did indeed feature a basic side bar, although it isnt really comparable to what around today

No, Jobs bought the ideas of GUI from Xerox for an immorally low price as they were only doing it as a hobby. When they saw that it was popular they decided to sue and, rightly, lost.

That never happened ....

"In 1990, Xerox filed a lawsuit against Apple; however, it was thrown out because a three year statute of limitations had already passed."

Granted windows equaly plaguased the stars O/S, although unlike apple they didnt outright steal the thing.

The problems are mainly caused becuse of the anti-trust action at the time which stoped many of the stars patents going through. (mouses, graphica user interface, windows, icons, WYSIWYG functionaly.. etc etc)

[Pawf]

I believe the original dashboard side bar and widgets stuff was actually an application rather than part of any O/S, i cant actually remember which "application it was though as i cant get konfabilator out of my head, which could be the one, although equally may not "/

Earliest "dashboard":

More evidence of Apple's claim to sidebar:

Granted windows equaly plaguased the stars O/S, although unlike apple they didnt outright steal the thing.

The story I heard is that Windows stole the OS from Apple (ironic but still wrong) and released it before Apple had chance. Also they bought DOS off a friend which removes the credibility of the claims to fame.

I agree with the person above who said that Apple's strong point is that they are the main company who produces their hardware and software and their weak point is Steve Job's attitude.

Gomme is right though, this argument is old and outdated and most people have given up OS-bashing. I don't think there will ever be a definitive answer to the question as to which is better. I use XP, Vista, Red Hat Linux and OS X and find OS X to be better.

Oh and I'm not a brainwashed fanboy, just a fanboy

[HotelUser]

Gates worked for Jobs and probably took his own ideas to Microsoft, if there is so much stealing going on, why do Gates and Jobs get along so well.

Macs are OK but they have big problems which prevent me from using them,

The first is the mouse, it doesn't feel right in my hand, I can probably get mice from other places to use but it's just not that great.

Compatibility is the second, Macs are not very compatible with some software out there. Windows is more popular so there is lots of good software out there but for a mac I don't seem to find much.

The look is the third. Windows Vista looks fantastic! Great Aero style, macs are white, ee... I don't find it very user friendly.

People who say There are viruses for windows and not as many for macs are just insulting macs by saying they are not popular, windows has viruses because it's popular, and if you have vista it's not a problem because even the basic edition comes with Windows OneCare which is a virus protection tool.

If you are getting errors on windows it's your own fault, you can't just go on the internet and download crap then hope that your system functions good, I've seen people download Kazaa, Bonzi Buddy, Net Nanny and other programs that are viruses then complain that their computer does not function, smarten up

If vista is so "bad" why did it sell more than XP did in the first month it was out?

I think it's funny, probably doesn't haver anything in commen with Mac or windows, but when Microsoft put a similar processor as Macs used to use, Xboxes started exploding Then Mac changed their Processor .


That's just my two cents.

[---MAD---]

To even suggest windows is the better software is ridiculous.

First, check out the windows search results on virus, here, and then the apple search results on virus here. You might also notice the first few pages of the apple results are about movies people have made..
Then there is the constant crashing.. The ridiculously over-rated VISTA (which I use) is vile. Not only is it clearly not finished, it is slow, full of bugs and has little if any feature-wise improvement on XP, its just displayed differently.

Also, many people dont realise but Apple originally created windows. Want to know why they arent using windows? They rejected it as too insecure, and sold it to bill gates and co for a ridiculously small amount (compared to the amount of money theyd invested creating it).

There are two reasons why microsoft are popular: its cheaper than apple by about 50%, and microsoft owned majority shares in the first companies to create software, so of course their software would be "suited" to windows (even though ive tried "windows only" software on my uncles mac, and it works better than on my vista laptop and xp desktop).

There can be no case for microsoft being better, I'll end with a little quote someone somewhere once said (not word for word):

Microsoft did nothing but speed up the age of computers, much like a fatal injection would speed up the death of a convict. You may all reap the benefits now, but one day you will regret going to such an insecure and unstable way of working.

Didn't bill gates pay Apple a few years back to keep them running when they had huge problems? I am sure its something like that.

I hate Macs very much. They are hard to use and just look bad.

Macs seem more secure because of the fact less people use them therefore hackers dont bother making viruses / trojans etc for it as theres little point in wasting a lot of time.

[Dentafrice,]

Microsoft gave apple a large sum of money before apple declared bankrupcy, now Apple turns around with this ad campaign, that ticked Microsoft off.

[---MAD---]

Microsoft gave apple a large sum of money before apple declared bankrupcy, now Apple turns around with this ad campaign, that ticked Microsoft off.

I doubt it does any harm. If anything it helps people realise what limits apple has to go through to get you to buy their Mac. Thats how I think of it .

[DJ-Vimto]

I have used both Windows and Mac OS for several years...probably nearly 10 years now and I have seen the way that both Operating Systems have evolved, probably Mac more than I have Windows, but that still hasn't stopped me from having a favourite out of the two - which is Windows.

My main argument for why Windows is the superior of the two OS's is Compatibility as someone above mentioned

Theres an extraordinary amount of software available to do thousands of different tasks that can be done on Windows. As well as this, it is extremely simple to use new hardware, particularly most devices are now "plug and play" with the exception of some types of storage or removable media devices...connect, install drivers (often done automatically) then its ready to go in a matter of seconds!



There are a number of things I do not like about Macs - the mouse! I hate having a one button mouse and having to hold down ctrl every time you need to right click something, the same goes with most MacBooks aswell, its extremely frustrating.

The second thing, is the compatibility problems faced with most games and software. With a mac you are much more restricted on the software you can use with it. more often than not you have to rely on software published by Apple, which can sometimes end up being worse than the main 3rd party software publishers.

I really cba writing more on this, so ima finish here

[Dentafrice,]

I have only used a mac a few times, and I have hated it.

The only thing I like is how it can be used for recording, which PC can do that too.

Mac must be desperate to produce these ads.

[---MAD---]

I have used both Windows and Mac OS for several years...probably nearly 10 years now and I have seen the way that both Operating Systems have evolved, probably Mac more than I have Windows, but that still hasn't stopped me from having a favourite out of the two - which is Windows.

My main argument for why Windows is the superior of the two OS's is Compatibility as someone above mentioned

Theres an extraordinary amount of software available to do thousands of different tasks that can be done on Windows. As well as this, it is extremely simple to use new hardware, particularly most devices are now "plug and play" with the exception of some types of storage or removable media devices...connect, install drivers (often done automatically) then its ready to go in a matter of seconds!



There are a number of things I do not like about Macs - the mouse! I hate having a one button mouse and having to hold down ctrl every time you need to right click something, the same goes with most MacBooks aswell, its extremely frustrating.

The second thing, is the compatibility problems faced with most games and software. With a mac you are much more restricted on the software you can use with it. more often than not you have to rely on software published by Apple, which can sometimes end up being worse than the main 3rd party software publishers.

I really cba writing more on this, so ima finish here

Yeah I agree. 1 mouse click thing kills me lol. And I hate how the X on windows is on the left in mac I am used to it on the right .