Why are supers so cheap

[Swush]

LOl we still on about this :rolleyes:

if you dont like habbox dont use it you will be the only one or one of a couple that dont use it, maybe try make your own site :8

[niaux]

There not actually cheap, the price for thrones has gone higher, so if you converted it all to HCs it wouldnt be exactly "cheap"

[-darkspike-]

There not actually cheap, the price for thrones has gone higher, so if you converted it all to HCs it wouldnt be exactly "cheap"

Dinos started off at 30t agess ago, they were like 6t last year or somit like that. But now they dont get that chance to re rise cause habbox has a nice set price for stuff.

[5,5]

Supply And Demand

[bo$$]

A super shoudn't be classed on price otherwise we'd have things like typos jumping from one section to the next all the time.

A super is something that hasn't been released or something that came out by mistake, Thrones, Russian Samovars and Holopods are all super rares.

I agree on the thrones, sams and holopods being supers.. yet they aren't yet.. -cough-

i dont see how habbox are runing the values its you guys out there that we get the report from, so we could say YOU yes YOU are runing the supers?

:8

But without your values, people wouldn't make prices like that.

If habbox aint running the values take down the value section for 3 weeks and see the impact it has on the hotel, ppl are like. OMG HABBOX IS A BIBLE, take it down and see how habbo turns out. It was alot more fun when there were no price sites.

People would kill themselves. Trading should be about what you want to give, not what other people on a website see..

agreed

agreed x2

Do you know why the majority trade by them? because they have no choice in the end, they have been on this site for god knows how long and it destroyed the fun of trading. Once you put a price on a item you will nevah get a good deal or risk taking a bad deal. it just destroys the whole concept

Yep. If I chose to not use habbox, I'd still have to follow their values because majority of the trade market uses it.

They were started as a guide, i'm not going to say people use them as a guide because people do use them as a bible. All i'm saying is more people would complain if they weren't there as more people would get ripped off.

If habbox would've never started, there'd be no problems. What makes a petal patch any more rare then a moon patch? There's less of the moons.. yet they are "cheaper"

I like having habbox there though
lets you know how much things are worth
when i left habbo for ages and came back
i didnt know what anything was worth
so habbox was good

You wouldn't need to know what anything is worth.. You'd trade for what you want to give.

Yeah, hes just being silly because he cant make the profit he would like and is getting abit upset over pixels, so he takes it out on a site :rolleyes:

And you're just defending habbox to a tee because you are a rvr

If there were no values then some people would get ripped off as not everyone would have a vague idea of the values. Habbox staff don't want to stop the values, that much I know for sure. People just want profit, nothing can be done about that, nothing.

They *wouldnt* because there'd be no "set" value. People would trade what they want.

Yes you are allowed an 'oppinion' but yours was stupid, close habbox :rolleyes: Yeh thats a great thing to do

Alot of people could say your opinion is stupid, so don't feel so big. He didnt say close habbox, he said take the values down for a week or whatever and see what happens.

Prooves my point that habbox is a bibble for 90% of the hotel, i dunno if its me, probally most dont care but is it teedius walking into a furni shop and them going to look on a website to sell there own furni

I agree, it's pretty stupid.

Uh.. no?
You have to have a price on something to be ripped off. No prices= no ripping off.

Exactly.

That what he's complaining about. And I 100% agree with him.
Habbox hold such a hold over the trading part of Habbo that if you don't go by them your considered a noob and/or clinicly insane. I hate that, the feeling of being controlled. I don't trade by Habbox values I trade for what I want, and I offer what I feel is equal to it. Not Habbox. Am I a noob? No.
Am I insane? No. I wouldn't offer, a football lamp let's say, for a throne. It's common sense. New people to the hotels must learn on their own, as I did. And the fact is, no rare values means NO prices which means no ripping off. It wouldn't be worth any more than the next rare.

Exactly.

That was aimed at Weec0 and not u lol you were just quicker then me to post. The point i was really trying to get accross was the point that there were always traders out in the habbo world to rip you off. Weec0 i see where you are coming from to the fact that you would get what you wanted from the trade but do you seiously believe that even 3 years ago that super rares would be traded for say a norm no and if the person who did do the trade then they clearly have not looked around. Habbox is just a guild and not what all habbo's trade by if you dont liek it don't use it end of.

Not really true. When thrones came out people were trading posters for them.
Once again, if I chose to not use habbox, it'd be too bad for me because most people DO use it. It's unfair for the people that want to set their own prices.

You're stressing the same points over and over again. If people didn't want to use habbox values, they wouldn't. You're forgetting that people want to have a guide value for their rare. Even if they don't want to trade at the exact habbox value then they still want a rough idea. You say two rares would have the same value, that wouldn't happen because if people want one rare more then another then they will pay more. Just because you dislike the way habbox have a hold over the rare market doesn't mean everyone else has to feel the same way as you did it ever cross your mind that people enjoy using the habbox values system because it's a system they know and trust.

You're pretty much stressing the same points over and over as well as everyone else who is a RVR. Did it ever cross your mind that if there was no values site to begin with, there'd be less hassle in trading..?

LOl we still on about this :rolleyes:

if you dont like habbox dont use it you will be the only one or one of a couple that dont use it, maybe try make your own site :8

Stop being so cocky for habbox.. It's really kinda annoying. You're talking down to him just because he doesn't like that Habbox has the power to pick whatever value the want for whatever rare they want, with everyone following them.

[jrh2002]

I used to prefer it with no habbox values most traders knew the average values of furni back in the day just that it was'nt there for all to see.
I loved taking furni off people for next to nothing when they didnt have much idea on values
habbox is a big help to people who don't spend all their lifes in trade rooms but if your a trader then you shouldnt even need to look at hx to find out a value.

[Immenseman]

I agree on the thrones, sams and holopods being supers.. yet they aren't yet.. -cough-

What would be the point of changing them after all this time? Technically they should be in supers but that arguement is tiring now, it's not going to happen.

But without your values, people wouldn't make prices like that.

People would still have an idea of values, they wouldn't think each rare is equal.

People would kill themselves. Trading should be about what you want to give, not what other people on a website see..

People don't have to trade by habbox values, they want to because they know that habbox give an accurate value of each rare.

Yep. If I chose to not use habbox, I'd still have to follow their values because majority of the trade market uses it.

Yes... that's because people trust them..

If habbox would've never started, there'd be no problems. What makes a petal patch any more rare then a moon patch? There's less of the moons.. yet they are "cheaper"

Maybe because people want a rare more then another, supply and demand...

They *wouldnt* because there'd be no "set" value. People would trade what they want.

You can't say every rare would be equal because surely you know the trading market doesn't work like that. People will always put a "set" value on their rare.

Alot of people could say your opinion is stupid, so don't feel so big. He didnt say close habbox, he said take the values down for a week or whatever and see what happens.

Utter chaos is what would happen.

Not really true. When thrones came out people were trading posters for them.

Not that every user got them via iones present. :rolleyes:

You're pretty much stressing the same points over and over as well as everyone else who is a RVR. Did it ever cross your mind that if there was no values site to begin with, there'd be less hassle in trading..?

Perhaps there would but the thing is there is a site which people use and people will always turn to it to get a rough idea of what people are trading. At the end of the day habbox get their values from what people are trading. If everyone started buying and selling thrones for 35hc, the value would change on habbox.

Stop being so cocky for habbox.. It's really kinda annoying. You're talking down to him just because he doesn't like that Habbox has the power to pick whatever value the want for whatever rare they want, with everyone following them.

& she's giving her opinion . If habbox put the nordic table to 10hc people wouldn't immediately begin buying and selling nordic tables for 10hc, habbox can't put any value for a rare and if they did they'd lose the trust they've earnt from all the habbox users and people would no longer use them... and you'd be happy.

[-darkspike-]

"Perhaps there would but the thing is there is a site which people use and people will always turn to it to get a rough idea of what people are trading. At the end of the day habbox get their values from what people are trading. If everyone started buying and selling thrones for 35hc, the value would change on habbox."


To that quote, people who have thrones will not do that, this is because habbox has the values and they command the habbo market. The only people who can actually say if it goes down is you guys, even with no evidence. If you put petals to 4 hc, people selling wont sell for less thus pushing the price up and rarly going down. Specialy on items like thrones. Supers on the other hand have for ever gone down, if you left a dino at 3t or a typo at 1t or a nelly at 7t. Stuff like that, they would never loose there value. But you didnt, you pushed em further and further down over the years, thus making the rarest items, worthless.

[theman0001]

If you put petals to 4 hc, people selling wont sell for less thus pushing the price up and rarly going down.

maybe but the reason we would have put the petals to 4hc in the first place is because people are already trading them for 4hc.

[Immenseman]

To that quote, people who have thrones will not do that, this is because habbox has the values and they command the habbo market. The only people who can actually say if it goes down is you guys, even with no evidence. If you put petals to 4 hc, people selling wont sell for less thus pushing the price up and rarly going down. Specialy on items like thrones. Supers on the other hand have for ever gone down, if you left a dino at 3t or a typo at 1t or a nelly at 7t. Stuff like that, they would never loose there value. But you didnt, you pushed em further and further down over the years, thus making the rarest items, worthless.

If people only traded with habbox values then a value would never change because people would only be trading with that one value. Values do change and habbox updates to meet these changes not the other way around. The super market has crashed but I don't think habbox is the sole reason for this.