In regards to this new banning thing.

[GommeInc]

My point is you can't tell what these people are doing. From what I've noticed, MAD seems to have a flurry of jobs on Habbox yet people have titles suggesting it is their department. It also makes it very bad for MAD because, as you can see, he gets the blame for many things when it really should be someone else to blame. Not suggesting the rep issue is J1MI's fault, I didn't even know he was the forum manager until 2 or 3 days ago, but because it his is job, supposedly to manage the forum, he must have the final and critical say in the matter. Ownership or no ownership of the forum. Habbox have mentioned that they're organised, or should be at least, so surely a manager of a department should make their announcements, regardless to whether or not they are busy?

[Sammeth.]

My point is you can't tell what these people are doing. From what I've noticed, MAD seems to have a flurry of jobs on Habbox yet people have titles suggesting it is their department. It also makes it very bad for MAD because, as you can see, he gets the blame for many things when it really should be someone else to blame. Not suggesting the rep issue is J1MI's fault, I didn't even know he was the forum manager until 2 or 3 days ago, but because it his is job, supposedly to manage the forum, he must have the final and critical say in the matter. Ownership or no ownership of the forum. Habbox have mentioned that they're organised, or should be at least, so surely a manager of a department should make their announcements, regardless to whether or not they are busy?

Issues that have a serious effect on Habbox are discussed between the General Management team. I'm sure J1MI did have a very big say too, but pinning it down on just one person is a bit harsh.

Also MADs job is General Manager. He doesn't just manage the site, he has to manage everything that is Habbox. Thats Habbox, all its departments, affiliate sites (HabboxLive, HabboxForum). Everything. So rather than just concentrating more on the site, I think he is trying to spread his focus widely so every part benefits. Though I don't know, I cant speak for him. I do a lot of guess work :8 (edit: Though I am basing this guess work from when I was a manager !)

[JackHb]

I think the site and forum are too big to be run as one by one general manager etc.
thats why there used to be AGM (Forum) and AGM (Site) and Site Manager etc.
The forum needs its own staff in my opinion and not mixed with the site staff as the forum in its self is huge to control.
It should have a dedicated AGM (Forum) (Who makes the big decisions like the one that just happened with the rep, along with the forum manager and assistant forum manager and forum staff) > Forum Manager > Assistant Forum Manager > Forum Administrators > Super Moderators > Forum Moderators

At the moment the admins are all AGM's and things like that, not actual forum dedicated staff.

[GommeInc]

I think the site and forum are too big to be run as one by one general manager etc.
thats why there used to be AGM (Forum) and AGM (Site) and Site Manager etc.
The forum needs its own staff in my opinion and not mixed with the site staff as the forum in its self is huge to control.
It should have a dedicated AGM (Forum) (Who makes the big decisions like the one that just happened with the rep, along with the forum manager and assistant forum manager and forum staff) > Forum Manager > Assistant Forum Manager > Forum Administrators > Super Moderators > Forum Moderators

At the moment the admins are all AGM's and things like that, not actual forum dedicated staff.

Which kinda spreads the work load with big consequences, no one has time enough for more than one big job e.g. someone who is an AGM and a News Manager. If whoever is just a News Manager, their times focuses on just one aspect and of course, such a big title will give them some say on site things that effect their department.

Issues that have a serious effect on Habbox are discussed between the General Management team. I'm sure J1MI did have a very big say too, but pinning it down on just one person is a bit harsh.

Also MADs job is General Manager. He doesn't just manage the site, he has to manage everything that is Habbox. Thats Habbox, all its departments, affiliate sites (HabboxLive, HabboxForum). Everything. So rather than just concentrating more on the site, I think he is trying to spread his focus widely so every part benefits. Though I don't know, I cant speak for him. I do a lot of guess work :8 (edit: Though I am basing this guess work from when I was a manager !)

People get the blame if they make themselves look like they decided it. That's life.

[J1MI]

I think the site and forum are too big to be run as one by one general manager etc.
thats why there used to be AGM (Forum) and AGM (Site) and Site Manager etc.
The forum needs its own staff in my opinion and not mixed with the site staff as the forum in its self is huge to control.
It should have a dedicated AGM (Forum) (Who makes the big decisions like the one that just happened with the rep, along with the forum manager and assistant forum manager and forum staff) > Forum Manager > Assistant Forum Manager > Forum Administrators > Super Moderators > Forum Moderators

At the moment the admins are all AGM's and things like that, not actual forum dedicated staff.

It's a good theory, but as you know habbox runs on a hierarchy and it takes a substantial period of time for certain members to go through the ranks and earn trust to be able to hold a higher position with more access, I should know i've been staff here over a year and a half now.

I do have to agree with you though, my thought is that you'd probably get more brainstorming done with more brains. That's also a good reason why this soon to be habbox council (HxC) should be good for future development.

See what I did there with the "HxC" i'm clever like that.

[GommeInc]

It's a good theory, but as you know habbox runs on a hierarchy and it takes a substantial period of time for certain members to go through the ranks and earn trust to be able to hold a higher position with more access, I should know i've been staff here over a year and a half now.

I do have to agree with you though, my thought is that you'd probably get more brainstorming done with more brains. That's also a good reason why this soon to be habbox council (HxC) should be good for future development.

See what I did there with the "HxC" i'm clever like that.

I don't think the council will work, they never do. They end up to be fansite chat rooms in the end. ClubHabbo have a council I think, and that just looks like a chat room. It's easier to discuss things on the forum because everything will be noted down and you won't mix words like you would if you took notes off of Habbo.

[Sammeth.]

I don't think the council will work, they never do. They end up to be fansite chat rooms in the end. ClubHabbo have a council I think, and that just looks like a chat room. It's easier to discuss things on the forum because everything will be noted down and you won't mix words like you would if you took notes off of Habbo.

The council will be something that is based on the forum I believe, consisting of forum members and staff alike.

[J1MI]

The council will be something that is based on the forum I believe, consisting of forum members and staff alike.

You are correct.

[GommeInc]

The council will be something that is based on the forum I believe, consisting of forum members and staff alike.

Surely the Feedback forum is enough? Having a forum Habbox Council will just over-rule the feedback forum. Afterall, councils are built around feedback...

[---MAD---]

Surely the Feedback forum is enough? Having a forum Habbox Council will just over-rule the feedback forum. Afterall, councils are built around feedback...

Members asked for a council so we are giving them a council .