In regards to this new banning thing.

[GommeInc]

Members asked for a council so we are giving them a council .

So we're having 2 Feedback Forums? What crazy people wanted this crazy idea?!

[Sammeth.]

So we're having 2 Feedback Forums? What crazy people wanted this crazy idea?!

I don't think it will quite be like having 2 feedback forums. Just wait and see. Give it a chance, you might like it! Live on the edge, and all that jazz.

[Catzsy]

I think the site and forum are too big to be run as one by one general manager etc.
thats why there used to be AGM (Forum) and AGM (Site) and Site Manager etc.
The forum needs its own staff in my opinion and not mixed with the site staff as the forum in its self is huge to control.
It should have a dedicated AGM (Forum) (Who makes the big decisions like the one that just happened with the rep, along with the forum manager and assistant forum manager and forum staff) > Forum Manager > Assistant Forum Manager > Forum Administrators > Super Moderators > Forum Moderators

At the moment the admins are all AGM's and things like that, not actual forum dedicated staff.

This is the best post I have seen for months + Rep. I and some people within the higher ranks of Management having been saying since day 1.

[Quote Fosters]

That's a lie. You once fired me from HxW and put me on the Do Not Hire list for apparantly being anti-Habbox, so please can you tell us the bloody truth for once instead of feeding us different crap everytime you post?

[Quote ---MAD---]J1MI and elkaa do pick their staff.

And no its not the same thing. Being anti-habbox and expecting to keep your job is ridiculous.

Craig[Fosters] and I do not always see eye to eye but he must be infuriated about this. He has said 'apparently anti-Habbox' and --MAD--- has come back and good as said that he is anti-habbox which is most definitely not true. I know Craig feels a great deal for this forum and its best interests as a lot of us do. I am not saying the GM has done this on purpose but maybe he just does not have the time to read and properly consider what the post says.

IMHO, the GM, as Forum Manager, did wield a great deal more power than Jimi seems to have, however, if Jimi is content with that I do not think there can be any argument as it is internal organisation and as such is not our business. However it maybe that the role of FM should be re-defined as it does look like the GM can't give up control to those looking from the outside in and this may, now Jimi has posted, not be the true picture at all.

It is all getting very sad now - It does seem to have turned into an us v them
arguement.

Personally I do not think this hard line approach will work It seems to be a punative short term fix for which is a very long term problem but only time will tell and as it is said if we do not like what Habbox has become we can leave.

[Hitman]

Can somebody clarify something for me because I can't be bothered to read all of the posts, you're arguing about the new banning 'rule'?

I think it's fine, because look at it this way; If you went to another forum, made loads of threads about another forum I'm pretty sure you would get banned. It's like any site... Habbo Hotel didn't like it when some people advertised Club Tropica, they removed it from peoples missions etc...

I'm not getting involved because it's not worth it, let things be, however I've just posted a little on what I think.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If I was staff and I said Management was crap and was ruining the forum, I could be fired for being 'anti-habbox'? So really staff won't be able to be on the council because if they want change which goes against management then they'll be fired? Personally I think Habbox either needs a council running it which members have more power over General Manager or Habbox's ideas need a new change.

It's time to do this.

Council/Public > Forum Manager > Site Manager > Management

[Sammeth.]

If I was staff and I said Management was crap and was ruining the forum, I could be fired for being 'anti-habbox'? So really staff won't be able to be on the council because if they want change which goes against management then they'll be fired?

I don't think the council will discuss the issue of "Crap management". If you are staff and you were abusive and rude, and very negative then of course you will get fired. But if you are staff and you are giving constructive criticism on how you think Habbox should change, with well formed arguments why - then no, surely. There is a big difference between handling things maturely, and being rude.

[GommeInc]

I don't think the council will discuss the issue of "Crap management". If you are staff and you were abusive and rude, and very negative then of course you will get fired. But if you are staff and you are giving constructive criticism on how you think Habbox should change, with well formed arguments why - then no, surely. There is a big difference between handling things maturely, and being rude.

Well they should do, it's the main issue at the moment. There really isn't anything else for the council to discuss :S Most staff are fired when giving any form of negative feedback, mature or immature. If they fire when no well layed out argument is formed, then that's stupid? They should work out a way to see what the soon to be ex-staff member thinks and find out their ideas. Not fire them at point blank range.

[Sammeth.]

Well they should do, it's the main issue at the moment. There really isn't anything else for the council to discuss :S Most staff are fired when giving any form of negative feedback, mature or immature. If they fire when no well layed out argument is formed, then that's stupid? They should work out a way to see what the soon to be ex-staff member thinks and find out their ideas. Not fire them at point blank range.

I re-read what I said. Ill try again

What I mean is, they shouldn't be fired if they are giving constructive criticism. Like "Maybe the management should focus more on X, due to the fact that Y blah blah blah". I think if people were to just say "MANAGEMENT IS CRAP" then of course they deserve to be fired. What kind of attitude is that?

[GommeInc]

Well then they should find out why that staff member thinks 'Habbox Management is crap.' Firing/banning just justifies that ex-staff members point

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't think the council will discuss the issue of "Crap management". If you are staff and you were abusive and rude, and very negative then of course you will get fired. But if you are staff and you are giving constructive criticism on how you think Habbox should change, with well formed arguments why - then no, surely. There is a big difference between handling things maturely, and being rude.

Constructive Critism is just closed/hidden on this forum as we saw the other night.

Well they should do, it's the main issue at the moment. There really isn't anything else for the council to discuss :S Most staff are fired when giving any form of negative feedback, mature or immature. If they fire when no well layed out argument is formed, then that's stupid? They should work out a way to see what the soon to be ex-staff member thinks and find out their ideas. Not fire them at point blank range.

100% correct, like usual