A question to people who post in this section regularly

[Paulio]

If you want an argument, join in, in the debates forum

[Mentor]

If you want an argument, join in, in the debates forum

If the debates forum ever had any decent debates, i expect people would...

Why its still run as a closed system, something which means more work for staff, a dead and uninteresting debates forum with no preservable advantages is still a mystery to me though. Especially since who ever is in charge of it, never seems to actually get round to doing a whole lot with it.

[GommeInc]

No, the fact is there's an instinct if we know a thread is turning into an argument or meets all the credentials to be an argument. Arguments are not allowed on this forum - you know that.

Any who, the web hosts award sounds a good idea and I'll definitely back that, plus, I'm all for the reviews but they cannot be100% negatively biased

Surely that whole post suggests Habbox Forum and it's moderators have re-written the whole point of a forum and that post also contradicts another comment made by MAD suggesting the forum isn't for chit chat, it's for deep discussions. No discussion can be one-sided and I don't believe in having members having to act like someone they're not, just to save their accounts being banned or the threads and posts removed from the forum, even though at the end of the day those posts and threads would not make the blindest bit of difference between attitudes.

The debates forum is boring and useless. You may aswell remove it and just have the world news / politics and religions forum. At least that forum is remotely interesting. Why should debates which the whole forum is about be dumped in the debates forum? We've having a debate now with two arguments, surely now this thread should be moved and/or deleted from view?

[Catzsy]

No, the fact is there's an instinct if we know a thread is turning into an argument or meets all the credentials to be an argument. Arguments are not allowed on this forum - you know that.

Any who, the web hosts award sounds a good idea and I'll definitely back that, plus, I'm all for the reviews but they cannot be100% negatively biased

What are the credentials?(criteria) for closing a thread these days. There is a very thin line between debate ( people airing their views) and arguments.
I do not think that you can close a thread for instinctively feeling that it may turn into an arguement because then again it may not!

[Aflux]

There's a huge difference between arguing and debating Gomme.

Edit;

Only just saw Catszy's post, when you've spent 99.9% of over 2/3 years on Habbox Forum in one section, you can tell almost instantaneously which threads there are going to be arguments in.

[FlyingJesus]

The debates forum is boring and useless. You may aswell remove it and just have the world news / politics and religions forum.

That's exactly what I was thinking when Carl said about the debates section being crap; news/politics serves the same and is more open

Still, there's a difference between an argument and a debate. I'm not against either myself because some arguments are absolutely hilarious, but if the forum rules state that they aren't allowed then that's that, it's not difficult to live with it.

[Catzsy]

There's a huge difference between arguing and debating Gomme.

Edit;

Only just saw Catszy's post, when you've spent 99.9% of over 2/3 years on Habbox Forum in one section, you can tell almost instantaneously which threads there are going to be arguments in.

Yes I know lol but you are not saying that you close them before it becomes an arguement are you? Thats how it is coming over. Keeping an eye on them is a different thing and that's there your instincts comes in, surely.

[GommeInc]

There's a huge difference between arguing and debating Gomme.

Edit;

Only just saw Catszy's post, when you've spent 99.9% of over 2/3 years on Habbox Forum in one section, you can tell almost instantaneously which threads there are going to be arguments in.

Not really, debates have arguments in? Not everyone is going to say "Oh yes death penalty is bad, but it is good at the same time" otherwise this forum would be filled with mindless drones who have no opinion and will just agree. It is not about agreeing with someones opinions, it's about putting yours forward and trying to accept someone elses beliefs at the same time. So tell me, you're psychic? Why remove threads with arguments in when you should be doing your job and dealing with the members arguing. Someone may of had a good debate and you've ruined it as much as the members who are going into severe arguing, by closing a harmless thread with a minute amount of malicious people. No wonder the forum doesn't have any good discussions, the terribly run moderation team is removing the interesting, fun and humourous debates on the forum

[Mentor]

Debate and augment are the same thing. The only difference is whether there done maturely or not. arguing your case in a debate is what debating is.

Don't believe me? Thanks to the magic of google define, i can present an my augment with some dictionary definitions to back me up:

a fact or assertion offered as evidence that something is true; "it was a strong argument that his hypothesis was true"
Im arguing my case right now to the tune of this definition.

controversy: a contentious speech act; a dispute where there is strong disagreement; "they were involved in a violent argument"
Disagree ment, auguring is two people with different opinions disputing who is right. Again, that's exactly what a debate is.

a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal; "the argument over foreign aid goes on and on"
Again, sounds like a debate to me.

Now, since you offer an opposing view to me, that debate and augment are different. This means where doing exactly what the second and third definition of arguing are now.

Does that mean this thread needs closing? Personally i think not: augment are one and the same, this augment at current is both civil and mature.

As long as it doesn't break down in to immature "you suck" type squabbling, i think arguing in this and most other cases is perfectly acceptable, as is debate. Its the root of all conversation keep in mind, if everyone agreed on everything, there wouldn't be a whole lot to talk about

[Adzeh]

What are the credentials?(criteria) for closing a thread these days. There is a very thin line between debate ( people airing their views) and arguments.
I do not think that you can close a thread for instinctively feeling that it may turn into an arguement because then again it may not!

I personally close threads in this forum in particular when I feel that the question has been answered appropriately, or a topic has been exhausted of all meaningful discussion.

I agree that there has to be evidence of arguments actually taking place before threads can be closed; however I find it strange that people can say this forum isn't interesting anymore because argument threads are closed. Does that mean that all you guys come here for is an argument? Clearly the forum has gone to pot, but not by effect of management :S