Free speech

[Adzeh]

Yep, is this the fourth post you have made telling me to get over it? Why don't you get over the fact that dan and his supporters aren't going to let this die?

Well by all means carry on posting repetitive threads.

If it gets you anywhere then we will know for sure that the system doesn't work .

Can you link me to my other three posts where I use the words "get over it" as well?

[Thetan]

Oh, nvm lol. I guess I mixed you up for all the other people who are telling me to get over it. Can't really tell the difference. They all say the same old argument.

[---MAD---]

Well I don't know what habbox thinks is free speech, but I am quite sure it is the ability to give your opinion, without getting banned.

Ok what if your opinion is offensive/disrepective towards another member?

Being able to give an opinion, say something that needs said, even criticize without being banned!

Same question to you .

Free speech doesn't exist and never will any where. Name me a place where you can do anything you want and say anything you want without getting punished?

Habbox alows free speech upto a certain point just like any where else in the world.

Exactly . Free speech is void as soon as there are rules/laws in place. To truly have "free speech" a forum must have no rules and no moderation because anything said would be classed as a breech of free speech.

What would happen if you swore/insulted someone on the street randomly? My guess is you would get your head kicked in . If free speech existed, you should be allowed to say whatever you want to anyone without anything happening to you.

Most the time people don't even know the complications of free speech but randomly use it against a person to try to shut them up.

Habbox Forum is not a right but a service. If you wish to use the service you have to follow our rules and ways of going about things just as you would if you moved countries, you would have to follow the laws they have in place and respect them and how they got about things. If you don't like their laws, then you should obviously not move there and consider else where. That's the reason for the TC agreement when you want to register at any site/forum or use any software.

[The Professor]

How do you know? Did Danandthe3gifts not just get banned for appealing a ban?

He knows because moderators do not have the ability to ban

[Thetan]

He knows because moderators do not have the ability to ban

Oh. Well now I feel a bit stupid.

Anyways, the point is that his opinion was neither disrespectful or offensive, it was just different and not a reason for a permanent ban. Not a good reason anyway.

[Catzsy]

Oh. Well now I feel a bit stupid.

Anyways, the point is that his opinion was neither disrespectful or offensive, it was just different and not a reason for a permanent ban. Not a good reason anyway.

Well moderators do but they have to be Super to do it. So essentially you are both right.

[RussianDanovar]

Ok what if your opinion is offensive/disrepective towards another member?

Same question to you .

Exactly . Free speech is void as soon as there are rules/laws in place. To truly have "free speech" a forum must have no rules and no moderation because anything said would be classed as a breech of free speech.

What would happen if you swore/insulted someone on the street randomly? My guess is you would get your head kicked in . If free speech existed, you should be allowed to say whatever you want to anyone without anything happening to you.

Most the time people don't even know the complications of free speech but randomly use it against a person to try to shut them up.

Habbox Forum is not a right but a service. If you wish to use the service you have to follow our rules and ways of going about things just as you would if you moved countries, you would have to follow the laws they have in place and respect them and how they got about things. If you don't like their laws, then you should obviously not move there and consider else where. That's the reason for the TC agreement when you want to register at any site/forum or use any software.

I have followed your rules & I have followed them well, look at my record. That rule isn't on the TC agreement & isn't even on your banning thread, therefore it isn't really a rule. The accouncement was made months ago, how do you expect me to remember sierk's announcement from months ago? - In the ione Gifts discussion thread I didn't bring up Habbox OR HHGS, the debate was purely on what people thought they should be classed as and I contributed and posted my belief, and that is that they are supers. On the fact Immenseman was questioning me over it I had a right to reply. If I was here to cause trouble, would I not be spamming the forum now calling you and management names and using foul language like a lot of this forum do?

I wasn't offensive or disrepectful, I never use foul language on this or any other forum. My arguements are always backed up whether in the political forums or Habbox Feedback forums, hell i'll even say it again - I help Immenseman with the rare values, and often post ideas. You yourself said in the banning thread that no one will be banned for posting an opinion. I don't just post my opinion, I justify it. I will PM you this as you aren't allowed to discuss it publically.

[Discharge Man]

Well as far as I am concerned 'Free Speech' means that you should be able to voice your opinion without fear provided you don't insult or demean anybody else in the process. I can see why staff are perhaps restricted in this area as it does not do morale any good but quite honestly as far as members are concerned they should be able to make up their own minds about other's opinions as on the whole they are mature enough to see
what is just posted to wind people up and what is not.

Part of my firing was due to voicing my opinion, hardly even criticizing - just giving a better way to do something and how something could be improved. I even got a PM saying something about 'Criticizing Habbox in public'.

I'm all for it but it'll never happen.

[GommeInc]

I have followed your rules & I have followed them well, look at my record. That rule isn't on the TC agreement & isn't even on your banning thread, therefore it isn't really a rule. The accouncement was made months ago, how do you expect me to remember sierk's announcement from months ago? - In the ione Gifts discussion thread I didn't bring up Habbox OR HHGS, the debate was purely on what people thought they should be classed as and I contributed and posted my belief, and that is that they are supers. On the fact Immenseman was questioning me over it I had a right to reply. If I was here to cause trouble, would I not be spamming the forum now calling you and management names and using foul language like a lot of this forum do?

I wasn't offensive or disrepectful, I never use foul language on this or any other forum. My arguements are always backed up whether in the political forums or Habbox Feedback forums, hell i'll even say it again - I help Immenseman with the rare values, and often post ideas. You yourself said in the banning thread that no one will be banned for posting an opinion. I don't just post my opinion, I justify it. I will PM you this as you aren't allowed to discuss it publically.

Oh yeah! There is no rule on being anti-Habbox! Plus, the terms and conditions most people signed up to have changed, so you will have to ask these people to agree to such terms and conditions before letting them even touch the forum.

[Fugato]

Oh yeah! There is no rule on being anti-Habbox! Plus, the terms and conditions most people signed up to have changed, so you will have to ask these people to agree to such terms and conditions before letting them even touch the forum.

LOL. ++rep, that's actually true.

So yeah (copies what GommeInc said). I signed up to a bunch of rules that have changed, I agreed the first set in like 2005, but not the current ones. (I'm an oldie on a new account).

Now I can swear, there was no rule on that in '05.

Thx GI.