Moderators editing posts

[The Professor]

Mike, I don't think you would last as a mod though. These guys give up their time for the forum and make decisions of their own back, if they're wrong, well it's just a mistake. Yes this rule needs reviewing, but I think everyone has put their point across.



Why are you doing this? Only 3 mods have posted and kept posting through new replies and have all semi admitted that the rule does need reviewing and there is a grey area about what to do in the case of the posts we are all discussing.

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What do you want me to do mike, carry on repeating myself all night? That sort of attitude is exactly why there's such a divide between staff/moderators and members. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO WORK AGAINST YOU. We don't enjoy looking for fights, I sure as hell don't enjoy typing those massive long essays that I'll bet very few people read. We post in this thread to explain some points which need to be cleared up, defend ourselves against attacks (or admit the mistakes) and try to discuss the issue with members so we can reach some sort of consensus as to where the problem is and how best to solve it. We are not trying to win any wars against you, and we are not "giving in" simply because we've said our pieces and can't say a whole lot more.

We're trying to work with you to keep the forum fun to use. The sooner you drill that into your cranium the sooner we can start to put some of the issues right.

[Callum.]

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What do you want me to do mike, carry on repeating myself all night? That sort of attitude is exactly why there's such a divide between staff/moderators and members. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO WORK AGAINST YOU. We don't enjoy looking for fights, I sure as hell don't enjoy typing those massive long essays that I'll bet very few people read. We post in this thread to explain some points which need to be cleared up, defend ourselves against attacks (or admit the mistakes) and try to discuss the issue with members so we can reach some sort of consensus as to where the problem is and how best to solve it. We are not trying to win any wars against you, and we are not "giving in" simply because we've said our pieces and can't say a whole lot more.

We're trying to work with you to keep the forum fun to use. The sooner you drill that into your cranium the sooner we can start to put some of the issues right.

Thanks

And yeah, the not working against members is yet to be realised with many people. Have some rep back on Callum. (more to offer) for all your points in this thread, aswell as some other people .

[Thetan]

You know, I don't exactly try to sound rude, it just comes when I am frustrated about something. I try my best to sound polite.

Not that I am a rude person, just happens for me.

[Tristan]

There was at least 3-4 moderators this week arguing for their mistakes. You are not the only one who fought against the members. The irony is that every mod ended up giving in. :rolleyes:

I'd say "heated debate"!

[Catzsy]

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What do you want me to do mike, carry on repeating myself all night? That sort of attitude is exactly why there's such a divide between staff/moderators and members. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO WORK AGAINST YOU. We don't enjoy looking for fights, I sure as hell don't enjoy typing those massive long essays that I'll bet very few people read. We post in this thread to explain some points which need to be cleared up, defend ourselves against attacks (or admit the mistakes) and try to discuss the issue with members so we can reach some sort of consensus as to where the problem is and how best to solve it. We are not trying to win any wars against you, and we are not "giving in" simply because we've said our pieces and can't say a whole lot more.

We're trying to work with you to keep the forum fun to use. The sooner you drill that into your cranium the sooner we can start to put some of the issues right.

Being defensive is counter productive in my opinion and I personally see no point. For me the best way is just to state the facts. It is either against the rules or allowed by the rules and where there is doubt get it clarified. The problem starts when personal comments are made which have nothing to do with the subject in hand and people are criticised instead of the particular action that was taken. As the GM said it is a service so we provide a service to the members. Being confrontational can work both ways.
Its is a community not a confrontunity. ( Oh that is very cheesey but it late:p) Goodnight

[shizzle]

True i seen loads abusing their powers.

[Callum.]

True i seen loads abusing their powers.

It's not really abusing their powers, it's doing what they think is right as the rule that was posted 2006 was a long time ago and alot of moderators were not here in 2006. At the end of the day, they're doing their job to their ability, if they don't know the rule (which many members aswell don't) then it should be reminded.

[Hayd93]

All i can say on this topic also is infractions.I don't enjoy giving out then,Members may think i do but i really do not.It causes divides between staff and members i think.Also when i hand a infraction out it actually causes more work for me as i have to type out all the details etc.Also people saying about me in spam forum etc editing all i can say is i try my best,Alot of people in there have jokes and sometimes is very hard for me to decide if it is a joke or a real insult.

[shizzle]

It's not really abusing their powers, it's doing what they think is right as the rule that was posted 2006 was a long time ago and alot of moderators were not here in 2006. At the end of the day, they're doing their job to their ability, if they don't know the rule (which many members aswell don't) then it should be reminded.

It abusing them.

[Callum.]

It abusing them.

Editing someones post with a edit is not abusing, abusing is giving out infractions with the intention of getting the user banned etc. Have you read the thread?