Vista install help

[iFuseDan]

To be honest - you're better off with XP anyways; its a much faster OS without all the incompatibility nonsense of vista - only real downfall is the lack of directX 10.

[Kieran]

Which isn't exactly brilliant anyway I don't think
Not worth the hassle for it.

[Jamesy]

To be honest - you're better off with XP anyways; its a much faster OS without all the incompatibility nonsense of vista - only real downfall is the lack of directX 10.

I don't think DX10 is that bigger loss

I spent quite a lot of money on a medium spec 8 series for DX10 and realised my mistake soon after.


Should have bought a high range 7 series

[Recursion]

I have had no problems with Vista and DX10 so you lot that say its unstable, insecure etc are talking a load of ********.

DX10 is worth it:
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3...3337800jy7.jpg

[Kieran]

We didn't say any of those,
I simply said its not worth the extra hassle of just getting vista to have it =)

[iFuseDan]

Tawm - instability is why Microsoft are stepping up Windows 7; The vista security model is to be honest a joke - using semi-virtualisation to try to secure parts which renders any software that needs access to parts of system that are not vista aware completely useless. Vista virtualises registry, system folders etc so when programs make relevent API calls they only get access to virtual clones which are read only - they then need to elevate permissions to gain full write access. This process in itself means that windows vista has unstable loading times (where cache'ing occurs).

Vista SP1 was very quickly released to address other bugs with installation monitor for example - falsly recognising completed installs as failed. There are also some really big holes in the kernel for windows too - which microsoft have yet to address.

The DEP facility - well its again not 100% because it has before even detected its own subsystem as falling under the illegal execution criteria and terminated thread/process - completely destabilising the OS.

I can go onto the problems that AV's have - other software incompatabilities - issues with modular runtime support for other languages (programming).

Tawm don't be ignorant enough to make the mistake of assuming because you have YET to face an issue that you wont; also I notice your example uses a Microsoft game...

DirectX 10.1 support in games is also documented to have problems ... There again I dont know if you've fully run anything DirectX 10.1.

I can give you more problems if you want

[Recursion]

Look at Crysis for a full DX10 Example then

I am simply stating that I fail to see why everyone hates it, you turn UAC off, run a decent Firewall and Antivirus suite and bobs your uncle!

DirectX 10.1 hasn't been officialy released yet and so no games support it, and about one graphics card suupports it so far.

[Jamesy]

I have had no problems with Vista and DX10 so you lot that say its unstable, insecure etc are talking a load of ********.

DX10 is worth it:
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3...3337800jy7.jpg

I didn't say I hate vista, I love it. I just got custom themes working so I'm very pleased.

I just don't play enough high level games so buying a dx10 card was pointless in my case.

But he is right, I haven't had any errors running on a pc built for xp.

[iFuseDan]

Look at Crysis for a full DX10 Example then

I am simply stating that I fail to see why everyone hates it, you turn UAC off, run a decent Firewall and Antivirus suite and bobs your uncle!

DirectX 10.1 hasn't been officialy released yet and so no games support it, and about one graphics card suupports it so far.

What are you on about - it was released February this year (DX 10.1) - as far as I know ATI HD3xxx series supports 10.1.

In terms of DX9 games - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ta,1531-4.html - have a look at the benchmark results - Vista lost. Some programs will utilise vista virtualisation better, and the marginally improved CPU support means that CPU intensive programs (compression for example) will function better - some rendering programs for audio will too work better - however video processing is said to be the other way round (in favor of XP).

UAC I agree is best turned off (boot times on Vista vary ocasionally in excess of 1 minute when feature is on).

I have not said that DX10 is a better rendering model - its a shame the OS behind it isnt that great - the reason Microsoft is keeping support for XP is due to the lack of backwards compatibility in Vista and the large number of business' refusing to migrate infact it'll be supported after windows 7 is released (name of windows scheduled for release in 2010 [Also rumored to be futher stepped up to second half of 2009]).

It has already been said by many professionals in the IT field that Vista is the more modern equivilent of windows ME. Sales of Vista (in terms of people purchasing, as opposed to OEM) have also proved to be a flop - Microsoft are resorting to enabling Virtualisation in the Home Basic, and Home Premium versions just to spark general consumer interest.

[Stephen!]

Assassin's creed is the first DX10.1 game