DevelopTomorrow - E-Learning

[seniorJOSH]

The system builder, Matt has rarely, accepted 49.9% of DevelopTomorrow as he believes he will make enough profit to cover his development costs.

How are you earning money off this?
How much funding is inputted?

CD Mass printing costs:

£1500-£3000

[DarrenToogood]

CD Mass Printing is not expensive, if you do it in your house, 1 at a time

No money really needs to be put into this project, apart from advertisements.

[Stepheen]

Wow, sounds like an awesome project. I'll be interesting in learning a little more about computers. Good luck darren

[Baving]

I seriously can't see this project even going further than a "buisness plan" created in a word document. There are several downfalls which you will find very difficult to overcome.

First of all, there are already plenty of courses about with professional creditation all over the world by huge companies. For example the Zend Certification Certificate and Microsoft. You say in your document "In-house qualification", this is no good. What is the point in having a qualifcation which is only in-house. That is like going to school, passing an exam and being told "oh by the way you can't use these to apply for a job" - Pointless

Interactive CD's - A walk through the city centre or a quick search online and you will already find hundreds if not thousands of CD's out there.

Job Search - There are already massive job gateways online:
JobCentrePlus (UK Only) - http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/index.html
RentACoder (Worldwide) - http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/default.asp
GetAFreeLancer (Worldwide) - http://www.getafreelancer.com/

Employees - If this were to be a success and to get decent employees in to do the "jobs" you will need a lot of funding. Based on current buisness rates per annum:

Website Developer (PHP, HTML, MySql, Flash) - £20-25k
Actionscript Flash Game Developer - £20-25k
Database Administrator/Builder - £20-25k
Legal Representative - £25-30k
Marketing Executive - £30k
Web Content Designer (Web 2.0 Themes) - £15-20k
Community Developer - £20k
Social Networking Application Developer - £15-20k

TOTAL: £165,000

Most of the big web design companies now a days do not accept applications with just experience. They require a degree in the field or a degree with relevant modules. Accreditation in other items is just a *small* advantage.

In order to gather proper accreditation within the UK alone you must get approval from the British Accreditation Council. Note - This is UK Only and not World Wide.

To have a successful program you need excellent content, do you have anyone who is experienced in writing professional content for learning or looked into it, e.g. consulting trainned personnel - Lecturers

Looking at the market trends from http://www.learnframe.com/aboutelear...rningfacts.pdf

This is a very competitve market to go into, the market is worth $2 trillion.

As pointed out in that document:

Many giants in the technology world are investing in and providing advanced products for
and services tailored to the learning market. These companies, which are expected to make
great inroads into e-Learning, include AOL, Yahoo, Microsoft, IBM, AT&T, Sun Microsystems,
Oracle, and Harcourt.

Huge companies are already getting in on the act. The public are more likely to go to a huge company offering a course rather than a small learning site.

But if you wish to continue with it, I wish you good luck

[seniorJOSH]

CD Mass Printing is not expensive, if you do it in your house, 1 at a time

No money really needs to be put into this project, apart from advertisements.

& Blank CDs with decent space £15 per 10.
You'll be producing around what 3,000? More?
3,000 x 10 = £30,000

I seriously can't see this project even going further than a "buisness plan" created in a word document. There are several downfalls which you will find very difficult to overcome.

First of all, there are already plenty of courses about with professional creditation all over the world by huge companies. For example the Zend Certification Certificate and Microsoft. You say in your document "In-house qualification", this is no good. What is the point in having a qualifcation which is only in-house. That is like going to school, passing an exam and being told "oh by the way you can't use these to apply for a job" - Pointless

Interactive CD's - A walk through the city centre or a quick search online and you will already find hundreds if not thousands of CD's out there.

Job Search - There are already massive job gateways online:
JobCentrePlus (UK Only) - http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/index.html
RentACoder (Worldwide) - http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/default.asp
GetAFreeLancer (Worldwide) - http://www.getafreelancer.com/

Employees - If this were to be a success and to get decent employees in to do the "jobs" you will need a lot of funding. Based on current buisness rates per annum:

Website Developer (PHP, HTML, MySql, Flash) - £20-25k
Actionscript Flash Game Developer - £20-25k
Database Administrator/Builder - £20-25k
Legal Representative - £25-30k
Marketing Executive - £30k
Web Content Designer (Web 2.0 Themes) - £15-20k
Community Developer - £20k
Social Networking Application Developer - £15-20k

TOTAL: £165,000

Most of the big web design companies now a days do not accept applications with just experience. They require a degree in the field or a degree with relevant modules. Accreditation in other items is just a *small* advantage.

In order to gather proper accreditation within the UK alone you must get approval from the British Accreditation Council. Note - This is UK Only and not World Wide.

To have a successful program you need excellent content, do you have anyone who is experienced in writing professional content for learning or looked into it, e.g. consulting trainned personnel - Lecturers

Looking at the market trends from http://www.learnframe.com/aboutelear...rningfacts.pdf

This is a very competitve market to go into, the market is worth $2 trillion.

As pointed out in that document:


Huge companies are already getting in on the act. The public are more likely to go to a huge company offering a course rather than a small learning site.

But if you wish to continue with it, I wish you good luck

Fo shizzle thats owned.

[DarrenToogood]

You only get a total of £165,000 if you go to companies. My website developer has cost me nothing, and I will be able to pick up a flash developer very cheaply. Community director will work for free, social networking developer - will find someone with some free time, marketing - again someone for free.

I see your points, however there is inner and outer markets. People like microsoft are always going to get more people than the smaller businesses, however without the smaller businesses, there would be no choice.

EDIT: No idea what you are speaking about :S http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50-RIDISC-LIGH...QQcmdZViewItem

[seniorJOSH]

CD Mass Printing is not expensive, if you do it in your house, 1 at a time

No money really needs to be put into this project, apart from advertisements.

So, a 10 pack of decent CDs, £15, you'll want to make about 3,000 at first.
3,000 x 15 = £45,000

I seriously can't see this project even going further than a "buisness plan" created in a word document. There are several downfalls which you will find very difficult to overcome.

First of all, there are already plenty of courses about with professional creditation all over the world by huge companies. For example the Zend Certification Certificate and Microsoft. You say in your document "In-house qualification", this is no good. What is the point in having a qualifcation which is only in-house. That is like going to school, passing an exam and being told "oh by the way you can't use these to apply for a job" - Pointless

Interactive CD's - A walk through the city centre or a quick search online and you will already find hundreds if not thousands of CD's out there.

Job Search - There are already massive job gateways online:
JobCentrePlus (UK Only) - http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/index.html
RentACoder (Worldwide) - http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/default.asp
GetAFreeLancer (Worldwide) - http://www.getafreelancer.com/

Employees - If this were to be a success and to get decent employees in to do the "jobs" you will need a lot of funding. Based on current buisness rates per annum:

Website Developer (PHP, HTML, MySql, Flash) - £20-25k
Actionscript Flash Game Developer - £20-25k
Database Administrator/Builder - £20-25k
Legal Representative - £25-30k
Marketing Executive - £30k
Web Content Designer (Web 2.0 Themes) - £15-20k
Community Developer - £20k
Social Networking Application Developer - £15-20k

TOTAL: £165,000

Most of the big web design companies now a days do not accept applications with just experience. They require a degree in the field or a degree with relevant modules. Accreditation in other items is just a *small* advantage.

In order to gather proper accreditation within the UK alone you must get approval from the British Accreditation Council. Note - This is UK Only and not World Wide.

To have a successful program you need excellent content, do you have anyone who is experienced in writing professional content for learning or looked into it, e.g. consulting trainned personnel - Lecturers

Looking at the market trends from http://www.learnframe.com/aboutelear...rningfacts.pdf

This is a very competitve market to go into, the market is worth $2 trillion.

As pointed out in that document:


Huge companies are already getting in on the act. The public are more likely to go to a huge company offering a course rather than a small learning site.

But if you wish to continue with it, I wish you good luck

Fo shizzle thats owned.

[Dentafrice]

You only get a total of £165,000 if you go to companies. My website developer has cost me nothing, and I will be able to pick up a flash developer very cheaply. Community director will work for free, social networking developer - will find someone with some free time, marketing - again someone for free.

I see your points, however there is inner and outer markets. People like microsoft are always going to get more people than the smaller businesses, however without the smaller businesses, there would be no choice.

EDIT: No idea what you are speaking about :S http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50-RIDISC-LIGH...QQcmdZViewItem

Don't argue with him, he knows at least 100x what you imagine that you know.

[Kardan]

The DT is not related, just happens to be a decent intial to have

David Tennant

The number to get through to me, the project developer is: 0560 1717 864

You're just asking for trouble if you want me to be totally honest...

Update:

Josh is no longer working for DevelopTomorrow. The decision was taken by both Partners of DevelopTomorrow, due to the lack of knowledge of the required design style, plus threats to now 'sue us'.

I can confirm that the logo created was created by myself, and was posted here on Habbox BEFORE Josh entered the team. Josh did a duplicate of the logo, and tried to change it a little for the behalf of the project. He is now threatening us, and telling us, the Partners to remove the logo from the site, as 'he made it'. I can confirm that at this begining of this thread, someone made a post showing the similarity of another logo of mine. This does back me up that the logo was created by myself.

The new partner on the team is Matthew Froggett, and now owns 49.9% of the business.

Okay, my honest views. Like nearly everyone else on the forum I don't think it will work considering the numerous other threads on this and such; but when you have your mass CDs or whatever in September 2008 going around the country or worldwide or whatever your market is then PLEASE come back here and rub it in our faces...

Why do I think it won't work? Well, Splur Studios? I haven't seen that in awhile... 'MMOCCMonthly' or whatever that was... Some magazine thing? SuerteHeights? I think that was to do with you... I haven't seen that since...

If you want me to be totally honest, I'm surprised you're still here on this forum. I mean, back in the day you had numerous hate threads back when you were Woodrlly and Write-It and whatother account names you had... And in my opinion you have a bad reputation on these forums.

You need to find somewhere new... You may have matured and might be serious about these business proposals and so forth but this forum knows you too well and you'd be lucky to get anyone to help.

Good luck anyway.

[seniorJOSH]

You only get a total of £165,000 if you go to companies. My website developer has cost me nothing, and I will be able to pick up a flash developer very cheaply. Community director will work for free, social networking developer - will find someone with some free time, marketing - again someone for free.

I see your points, however there is inner and outer markets. People like microsoft are always going to get more people than the smaller businesses, however without the smaller businesses, there would be no choice.

EDIT: No idea what you are speaking about :S http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50-RIDISC-LIGH...QQcmdZViewItem

Stock will run out, and you trust it over eBay? :rolleyes: