Youmeo, the new leaf.

[Excellent1]

I couldn't agree more, I seriously couldn't. As much as I think Olleh has a bigger ego than all of you put together, he's freakin right. All greg came to do is to promote his website, and to give us a preview of the new website. I loved the preview since the camera idea is rather unique and shows you exactly what the website will look like through the browser instead of through a image file (which isn't exactly... great).

I hate how you guys just used something completely unrelated to this matter, against Olleh. If you're going to hold that against him and ignore what he is saying, just because of that, then you're all pretty damn immature. In all honesty, only one or two people in this thread have made me think, "Oh, they know what they're talking about without having a personal grudge against the person posting". Shame I can't say it to most... Pssh.

If Youmeo is advertising on Facebook like I read in this thread, then it shows that they mean business and they're not some website which is just going to wait for people to come to them, they're going to go and get the people to come to them. It shows they're commited which, tbh is more than I can say for the majority of the Technology Forum. The life expectancy of websites I've seen created from the Tech Forum, is VERY short. Either they get left alone or just go down because the owner has decided to make something else (to follow the Tech fad, most likely).

When Youmeo becomes fully secure then I'm going to register, and I'm going to tell my friends about it and you know why? Because I think it's better than most of the crap that I see on this forum & because I think it stands a chance in this market. If they're dedicated and are making the right moves then they can get to the point that they're ultra popular. Remember, Facebook only started out as a school project for a University student in America and now look at it. The possibility of a project built by ambitious developers, becoming successful is rather likely.

Oh and Caleb, sorry but as much as I respect you, that was a low blow to say **** like that. You and Greg were in a partnership in Klydo, were you not, so that makes the coding/graphics on Klydo owned by both...? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I did business I remember hearing something along the lines of that. What you said was really out of order and unsupportive, which just goes to show that your personal grudges get in the way of nearly every single project that Greg builds. You turned this thread against him, I'm sure you're aware of that.

It's a good job Greg deals with 'feedback' in a professional manner, instead of mouthing off. Oh and on a unrelated note, have you ever thought about doing something like Justin.tv have done, with live web streaming for Youmeo? Might be something to look into since I'd sign up for all of what you've mentioned, plus that and more.

Good luck on the site.

Don't tell me you're one of clubscabbos fansite activists protesting against Lost_Witness due to his unfaithful sin of not DJ'ing. We have offered greg and youmeo the advice we think and know is right. The fact of the matter is greg is advertising youmeo, fair does to him. The site is not even finished yet, there are copious ammounts of errors and flaws. You cannot possibly get a site popular or 'well known' with things such as that.. I really think greg should have waited until the errors were fixed originally to make a thread about this.

I think youmeo has their heads screwed on but right now are concentrating too hard on money and not on their users.

[Pyroka]

Don't tell me you're one of clubscabbos fansite activists protesting against Lost_Witness due to his unfaithful sin of not DJ'ing. We have offered greg and youmeo the advice we think and know is right. The fact of the matter is greg is advertising youmeo, fair does to him. The site is not even finished yet, there are copious ammounts of errors and flaws. You cannot possibly get a site popular or 'well known' will things such as that.. I really think greg should have waited until the errors were fixed originally to make a thread about this.

I think youmeo has their heads screwed on but right now are concentrating too hard on money and not on their users.

Excellent, I hate you for saying that LOL. I do not like Clubhacko one bit, and idc about the DJing thing. Greg made the thread to advertise a new layout didn't he? A 'reverbed Youmeo', but EVERYONE knows reverbs come with bugs and glitches. It's just... technology for you heh.

[Excellent1]

but there's always one or two who like to turn it sour, with comments which seem so damn harsh in my eyes.

Welcome to planet earth.

Excellent, I hate you for saying that LOL. I do not like Clubhacko one bit, and idc about the DJing thing. Greg made the thread to advertise a new layout didn't he? A 'reverbed Youmeo', but EVERYONE knows reverbs come with bugs and glitches. It's just... technology for you heh.

Nothing against you though He sure did but theres no point starting a new layout when there is security issues with the current site.

[Source]

Doesn't seem you are getting the point Pyroka. You are trying to act as if you know everything about youmeo, you really don't. Absolutly no-one knows everything about anything nor most of the time a good insight.

The issue's we have with the site personally are the fact that we report big security issues to the staff, and 1 - 2 weeks later most of the time they havn't been fixed because they are working on the BETA, people want their data secure first before the BETA is released. Mainly because in that time anyone could decide "Hmmm, I want 400,000 users passwords". That's the issue, which you need to understand.

[today]

So, im rather slow lately, does he work for youmeo too?

[Janczyk]

LMAO that was so patronising it was incredible.

Right, from reading that thread I sensed alot of hostility towards Greg and the Youmeo project. If that detection was wrong, then apologies, but I've seen it so many times before. In all honesty, Olleh is right, there is a technology forum fad every month or so, one does one thing and everyone follows suit. If that offends you then fine, it doesn't bother me but it's bloody true.

From what I see in technology forum built websites, I see people trying to make a successful business, not a portfolio. That's just me, I like to see projects succeeding, not going into the waste bin (aka portfolio). I admit there is alot of politeness in this thread *shock* but there's always one or two who like to turn it sour, with comments which seem so damn harsh in my eyes.

I'm being patronising because you know nothing about web development, or how this section 'works' so to speak. There may be hostility, as in, he stealing Caleb's coding [not that I know anything about it] but that's about it. We all want to see Greg be successful because he's come from where we are now [as I've already said] and there is no hostility towards him, only criticising the site as it is and offering suggestions of how to improve so to speak.

A project is a project. Of course you aim for it to be successful but at a young age you can expect failure because of the lack of finance. But Ryan, do you understand web development? No. You don't because you probably only glance over threads in here. Same with Olleh, you come in trying to act as a safety officer in the middle of the Iraq war or something - when we're trying to help Greg rather than slate him and the site. There always have been one or two *****s in this forum and that's the way it has always been but if you spend time here, you'll know who they are and you know how people go about doing things.

Don't hate on me I'm just telling you how it is.

[Dentafrice]

I couldn't agree more, I seriously couldn't. As much as I think Olleh has a bigger ego than all of you put together, he's freakin right. All greg came to do is to promote his website, and to give us a preview of the new website. I loved the preview since the camera idea is rather unique and shows you exactly what the website will look like through the browser instead of through a image file (which isn't exactly... great).

I hate how you guys just used something completely unrelated to this matter, against Olleh. If you're going to hold that against him and ignore what he is saying, just because of that, then you're all pretty damn immature. In all honesty, only one or two people in this thread have made me think, "Oh, they know what they're talking about without having a personal grudge against the person posting". Shame I can't say it to most... Pssh.

If Youmeo is advertising on Facebook like I read in this thread, then it shows that they mean business and they're not some website which is just going to wait for people to come to them, they're going to go and get the people to come to them. It shows they're commited which, tbh is more than I can say for the majority of the Technology Forum. The life expectancy of websites I've seen created from the Tech Forum, is VERY short. Either they get left alone or just go down because the owner has decided to make something else (to follow the Tech fad, most likely).

When Youmeo becomes fully secure then I'm going to register, and I'm going to tell my friends about it and you know why? Because I think it's better than most of the crap that I see on this forum & because I think it stands a chance in this market. If they're dedicated and are making the right moves then they can get to the point that they're ultra popular. Remember, Facebook only started out as a school project for a University student in America and now look at it. The possibility of a project built by ambitious developers, becoming successful is rather likely.

Oh and Caleb, sorry but as much as I respect you, that was a low blow to say **** like that. You and Greg were in a partnership in Klydo, were you not, so that makes the coding/graphics on Klydo owned by both...? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I did business I remember hearing something along the lines of that. What you said was really out of order and unsupportive, which just goes to show that your personal grudges get in the way of nearly every single project that Greg builds. You turned this thread against him, I'm sure you're aware of that.

It's a good job Greg deals with 'feedback' in a professional manner, instead of mouthing off. Oh and on a unrelated note, have you ever thought about doing something like Justin.tv have done, with live web streaming for Youmeo? Might be something to look into since I'd sign up for all of what you've mentioned, plus that and more.

Good luck on the site.

Okay Ryan.. that post was pretty pathetic. You are a great guy, and I respect you, but that post was out of line. Lets see why.

I hope you read it.

#1. Don't start throwing your opinions in, when you have no idea about the subject, or the thread.

This thread was not 'turned around by me'.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....1&postcount=16 - First negative post towards security.

My first post was here:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....8&postcount=80

Of course, I turned the thread around? No.. not at ******* all.

I'm not going to let someone advertise a site in this section, that claims to be 'original' (my color selector) and an insecure site that allows malicious hackers to get to users' data.

I hate how you guys just used something completely unrelated to this matter, against Olleh. If you're going to hold that against him and ignore what he is saying, just because of that, then you're all pretty damn immature. In all honesty, only one or two people in this thread have made me think, "Oh, they know what they're talking about without having a personal grudge against the person posting". Shame I can't say it to most... Pssh.

HE isn't saying anything, he is being a total hypocrite, and voicing his opinion on a matter he has no clue about.

If you don't visit the D&D forums often, you have no idea, and neither does he. This section is like another forum, and it works differently. When someone from the Habbo sections come in, and be a ****, then yes.. we get pretty ill.

All greg came to do is to promote his website,

Yeah? and we didn't say he couldn't.. he promoted it, we criticized it, read my signature maybe? :|

"Oh, they know what they're talking about without having a personal grudge against the person posting".

I don't have a personal grudge against anyone in here, and I probably never will. I am still going to point out things, and criticize anyone.

I criticize anyone and everyone, to the point where they get very ill, but in the end.. they end up learning more then expected

If Youmeo is advertising on Facebook like I read in this thread, then it shows that they mean business and they're not some website which is just going to wait for people to come to them, they're going to go and get the people to come to them.

Which points that their business side of things is awful, congratulations, you have an advertisement on Facebook, telling you that your social network is better... YET

The site is full of bugs, it is released with major security issues, and it looks awful.

What is the point of that? Yeah, that is a good business plan, lets drive people to our defective site.

The life expectancy of websites I've seen created from the Tech Forum, is VERY short. Either they get left alone or just go down because the owner has decided to make something else (to follow the Tech fad, most likely).

If you haven't noticed, most, users on here are around 13-16, what do you really expect? The next Google?

No, they are building their (usage?) skills up, and hopefully someday make something of them, not start the next big thing (although we think we are)

You have nothing to say, lets see something you started that has lasted.. other then Habbo.

Oh and Caleb, sorry but as much as I respect you, that was a low blow to say **** like that. You and Greg were in a partnership in Klydo, were you not, so that makes the coding/graphics on Klydo owned by both...?

The design was owned by him, the coding by me. Yes we were in a partnership until he decided to turn into a *****.

What you said was really out of order and unsupportive, which just goes to show that your personal grudges get in the way of nearly every single project that Greg builds.

Of course I do not support this, someone who puts off on security issues really drives me mad.

It took weeks for some of them to listen, and sometimes for me to prove to them how bad the issues were.. and they finally fixed them about 2 weeks later.. (that shows how much they care about your data)

So no, I don't support the project.. or Greg, based on a number of valid points.

This is his only project past Klydo, where it really began, so I really have no 'personal grudge that gets in the way of nearly every single project that Greg builds'?

Your argument is invalid.

Excellent, I hate you for saying that LOL. I do not like Clubhacko one bit, and idc about the DJing thing. Greg made the thread to advertise a new layout didn't he? A 'reverbed Youmeo', but EVERYONE knows reverbs come with bugs and glitches. It's just... technology for you heh.

And those bugs are worked out before, it is released.. not during a public BETA, the majority of all major security issues should be resolved, and then when they are found, fixed immediately.

Not weeks later, and just leaving most of them, especially leaving the site online with the exploits.. that doesn't make me respect them anymore.

A project is a project. Of course you aim for it to be successful but at a young age you can expect failure because of the lack of finance. But Ryan, do you understand web development? No. You don't because you probably only glance over threads in here. Same with Olleh, you come in trying to act as a safety officer in the middle of the Iraq war or something - when we're trying to help Greg rather than slate him and the site. There always have been one or two *****s in this forum and that's the way it has always been but if you spend time here, you'll know who they are and you know how people go about doing things.

LOL +REP.

@RYAN

You don't have any idea what you are talking about, and acting just like a fanboy who can't step back and see the big picture.

If you are going to act like that, you shouldn't be near this forum.

[today]

Bless ryan

[Dentafrice]

haha why do you say that?

[Excellent1]

The thing is you get people who know absolutely nothing about web/dev such as that idiot Ollie from clubscabbo who come in here shouting the odds like a bloody judge. I haven't been here long enough to call myself a fully fledged member of the web/dev forums but I've been here long enough to know how the jungle works, and no offense to you Pyroka but I've seen you in the spam forums which is where you post about your things. It's clear to me you have no idea of these forums or how they work or how the users work so why bother trying to flame us for giving our opinions on a subject we know about? This defeats the object of 'free speech' surely? Dentafrice saw a major security flaw and he pointed it out, youmeo didn't do anything about this for a good few weeks. Maybe it's still exploitable? Also his colour changer, he saw the coding was his that greg has probably given to youmeo without Dentafrice's permission so this SHOULD be removed on request. We didn't come here flaming greg as we know with his design skills the site can take off. But the thing is we have been giving our opinions on a social networking site that apparently has 400,000 users? And yet.. nothing has been done but starting a brand new site.