Obama vs McCain

[Blue.Neon]

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008...ing/index.html

look at that map of the latest polls - it shows which state voted for which candidate

McCain has won most of the south and obama with the east

[scottish]

But at the side..

Obama - 49%
McCain - 44%
Unsure - 7%

[Technix2008]

I want McCain to win, I think he's quite funny and that Sarah Palin makes me laugh aswell, with her winking all the time. Yeah, John McCain to win!!

[Technologic]

dentrafice is alright, so dont even say stuff like that. he's waaaaaaaaay better than most people i have debates with about this stuff. at least he's being honest and reasonable. even though i disagree with him on most things, i'd hardly say i hate him. its nice to have a civil conversation.

By you i meant uptight republicans in general xl
And anyway voting in america is a mess.

You dont even vote for the president, you vote for somebody who represents your state. This person then gets to choose between the TWO candidates. Two parties... So even if the majority says one thing it can swing the other way. Also, people can challenge your right to vote at polling stations and you can imagine that some of the challeneges will be based on race, colour, social status or even if they suport the oppsing party...

[Browney]

well, even if that is the case, i still 100% agree with him

that video made me laugh out loud. 1:15 onwards.

[alexxxxx]

By you i meant uptight republicans in general xl
And anyway voting in america is a mess.

You dont even vote for the president, you vote for somebody who represents your state. This person then gets to choose between the TWO candidates. Two parties... So even if the majority says one thing it can swing the other way. Also, people can challenge your right to vote at polling stations and you can imagine that some of the challeneges will be based on race, colour, social status or even if they suport the oppsing party...

Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought you DID vote for the president, unlike in this country where you vote for the representative. AND you can vote for third parties such As Nader (i think that's his name) and others. Is that not correct? If not, then the USA is not a true democracy.

Obviously if they have missiles etc then they would be protecting US as theres nothing to say they won't use them against US or UK, so to an extent is is, its also (another reference to the video) giving people the freedom they deserve.

It isn't a threat to the UK or USA as the missiles were proven not to have that much of a range and to say a country has a right to go into another country, kill civillians and take prisoners, then that sounds an awful lot like 'terrorism' to me.

To say 'get over it' to non-free press is to pretty much take a poo on the whole idea of freedom.

Barack Obama isn't playing the race card, I believe he has only ever said something that could be considered that when he was on about not looking like all the other presidents on the bills (even then, that could be taken metaphorically). Though what I don't like about Obama is that he tries to sell himself too much, like he's a product, a brand. The only thing I have that I would vote for him is a bit of an economic plan which McCain doesn't have at all. McCain even said he doesn't have enough knowlege on the economy. McCain is a warmongerer which scares me, as the UK are the USA's lapdog and seem to do anything they say (such as signing one-way treaties regarding extradition and not complaining or standing up to the USA when they wouldn't extradite soldiers who shot a British soldier dead).

I'd think that the majority of the population here think that Iraq/Afganistan is a mess and that we'd like to leave asap.

I think that McCain sounds like a decent guy, as he corrected a member of his audience when he shouted that Obama was a muslim terrorist. I also think that experience does count for something as well.

McCain and Obama don't have any real answers to anything, but I'd probably vote for Obama as McCain's choice for VP and little knowlege on the economy and his sometimes vicious and over the top attacks on Obama. Obama will only win this election because of his clean campaign and his tax plan, he's not an outstanding candidate at all.

[Technologic]

Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought you DID vote for the president, unlike in this country where you vote for the representative. AND you can vote for third parties such As Nader (i think that's his name) and others. Is that not correct? If not, then the USA is not a true democracy.

That's how they do it, it happened ages ago when the people vtoed for one guy but the government didnt like him so chose the other.

[alexxxxx]

That's how they do it, it happened ages ago when the people vtoed for one guy but the government didnt like him so chose the other.

Well that's a bit crap then aha.

[scottish]

None of them know about the economy really, they go with books and previous presidents decisions or economists from the past.

[Ezzie.]

None of them know about the economy really, they go with books and previous presidents decisions or economists from the past.

So looking back on history to help the future is a ridiculous notion? :eusa_danc
Also about the Obama is using the race card, that's completely ridiculous, he's using his expertise, his experience, his enthusiasm etc..

I don't see how Mccain is so great? I'm sure I'd get on well with him as a person, but his ideals and rhetoric are greatly flawed and old fashioned. Look at conservative Colin Powell who is backing Barack Obama because he considers Mccain's ideas on the economy to be unsatisfactory.

Also I've not read the entire thread, alas it is too long but Dentafrice or somebody said that because of the foundations of religion within the united states of america, gay marriage should not be passed. Did you completely miss the founding fathers decision to make religion and state seperate.
If the religous of America would like to start poking their noses into politics, perhaps they should stop being a no tax organisation and run as a political movement.