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Thread: Obama vs McCain

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    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

    Basically remove them responsibly and put more troops into Afghanistan is the general idea
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    ok girls

    Redwhateveryournameis; the way he structured the sentence was "All americans vote for obama" If he was saying to all americans, to vote for obama it would be been constructed like this; "All americans, vote for obama"


    Alex; presidents can't declare war, can they? it needs to go through congress from what im aware.

    Alex; The war in iraq shouldnt stop, as thats basically saying "HEY WE CAN INVADE YOU, then we get a ***** presidents so we're out BYEEEE" That shows weakness, the war in iraq was for a reason, didn't obama even say that the war in iraq wasn't pointless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sc0tteh View Post
    ok girls

    Redwhateveryournameis; the way he structured the sentence was "All americans vote for obama" If he was saying to all americans, to vote for obama it would be been constructed like this; "All americans, vote for obama"


    Alex; presidents can't declare war, can they? it needs to go through congress from what im aware.

    Alex; The war in iraq shouldnt stop, as thats basically saying "HEY WE CAN INVADE YOU, then we get a ***** presidents so we're out BYEEEE" That shows weakness, the war in iraq was for a reason, didn't obama even say that the war in iraq wasn't pointless?
    Presidents cannot declare war.. they can send in troops for no more then 60 days..

    Then congress votes on whether or not to leave them there.. or bring them all home.

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    Ah kai..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sc0tteh View Post
    Ah kai..
    Yeah it's confusing.. unless he made an executive order/decision which bypasses congress.. but then that would be reviewed by the supreme court under judicial review..

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    I think the idea was all Americas- ie, if you're a true patriotic american you will vote for Obama, but I'm not too sure on that.

    Declaring war I'm not sure about.. the president is the command in chief so surely could declare if he so choosed too.

    It's not showing weakness atall, we have removed a cruel dictator, that was one of the only good things about it really.. it was pointless to go in, there were no evidence for WMD's, although Saddam was a cruel, vindictive man the costs of going after him and fighting in that area, plus the lives of american and british soldiers. It's quite a price for a man who will eventually fade away like every other dictator has done in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dentafrice View Post
    Presidents cannot declare war.. they can send in troops for no more then 60 days..

    Then congress votes on whether or not to leave them there.. or bring them all home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sc0tteh View Post
    Ah kai..
    I have never ever seen Scott concede or at least drop an argument and I've known him for a year or so, thank you dentafrice.

    Also, thanks to the person who answered my question up there I forgot your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    I have never ever seen Scott concede or at least drop an argument and I've known him for a year or so, thank you dentafrice.

    Also, thanks to the person who answered my question up there I forgot your name.
    ^_^. He is probably just thinking.. Scott is a pretty good thinker.. and is arguing humanly Not like the rest of these baboons. kidding..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezzie. View Post
    I think the idea was all Americas- ie, if you're a true patriotic american you will vote for Obama, but I'm not too sure on that.

    Declaring war I'm not sure about.. the president is the command in chief so surely could declare if he so choosed too.

    It's not showing weakness atall, we have removed a cruel dictator, that was one of the only good things about it really.. it was pointless to go in, there were no evidence for WMD's, although Saddam was a cruel, vindictive man the costs of going after him and fighting in that area, plus the lives of american and british soldiers. It's quite a price for a man who will eventually fade away like every other dictator has done in the past.
    Like I said above:

    The president of the United States has no clear constitutional authority to declare war without congressional approval. However, the U.S. Supreme Court has determined that the president, as commander-in-chief of the military, does have the authority to recognize a "state of war" initiated against the United States and may in these circumstances unilaterally send U.S. troops into battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenseman View Post
    I have never ever seen Scott concede or at least drop an argument and I've known him for a year or so, thank you dentafrice.

    Also, thanks to the person who answered my question up there I forgot your name.
    Wasn't technically an arguement, he's just telling me how the US declaring of war works, which i didn't know

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    At the rep you gave me, no i wasn't wrong, as i asked the question "Alex; presidents can't declare war, can they? it needs to go through congress from what im aware."


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