Microsoft is accused by EU again

[Moh]

Why's everyone sticking up for Microsoft, their a right arse of a company.

Some linux distibutions (like Ubuntu) come with Firefox... that's basically the same as this.

Linux is free and open source.

[scottish]

Why's everyone sticking up for Microsoft, their a right arse of a company.

Linux is free and open source.

Because a few reasons

i like microsoft

and if i made a company and built it up to get about a few hudnred billion a year, i'd hate for some low life scum fining me all the time to take my money for unjustified causes.

[Tim.]

How would we be able to get hold of other browsers without an actual browser to start?

[Hitman]

Why's everyone sticking up for Microsoft, their a right arse of a company.

Linux is free and open source.

They're still promoting Firefox, giving it an unfair advantage.

[Moh]

Because a few reasons

i like microsoft

and if i made a company and built it up to get about a few hudnred billion a year, i'd hate for some low life scum fining me all the time to take my money for unjustified causes.

It didn't say they got fined, it says they are accused.

But I do agree with EU (Well, not with this case), Microsoft do not play fair in the market. They shouldn't have to use their money to "make their products the best", they should make them the best so they shouldn't even have to pay. For example, Microsoft gaming. If their game console was "the best", then why would they have to pay game developers to just create games for them and not PS3.

They're still promoting Firefox, giving it an unfair advantage.

People have a choice to have Linux or not, but Windows is installed on pretty much every computer. Which puts the cost of a computer up by how much?

[scottish]

It didn't say they got fined, it says they are accused.

But I do agree with EU (Well, not with this case), Microsoft do not play fair in the market. They shouldn't have to use their money to "make their products the best", they should make them the best so they shouldn't even have to pay. For example, Microsoft gaming. If their game console was "the best", then why would they have to pay game developers to just create games for them and not PS3.


People have a choice to have Linux or not, but Windows is installed on pretty much every computer. Which puts the cost of a computer up by how much?

Yes but we all know microsoft is going to lose against the EU as they're just in it trying to make some money for stupid causes.

Imho if i was microsoft i'd do something to spite the stupid *******s who are doing this, like add something to make other browsers incompatible and don't ship it with internet explorer so they have no way of using the internet just to piss these ***** off.

[Nick.]

They should bundle Firefox and Internet Explorer on Windows tbh. All my friends use IE7 and hate it, but don't know there is an alternative. They think that the only way to get on the net is IE7. IE7 really is a hunk of junk. It's so bloated and ugly, hopefully IE8 will be better.

[scottish]

They should bundle Firefox and Internet Explorer on Windows tbh. All my friends use IE7 and hate it, but don't know there is an alternative. They think that the only way to get on the net is IE7. IE7 really is a hunk of junk. It's so bloated and ugly, hopefully IE8 will be better.

MS shouldnt have to advertise other browsers because other browsers don't advertise enough?

[Jordy]

This is identical to the Windows Media Player case which they lost and the EU made £600,000,000 out of them, they're just trying their luck again to get a bit more easy money from them. When I buy the Windows OS, I pay for Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer too, it's like a package of software you pay for, the EU treats it as you buy the Kernel and everything else is additional? No consumers have complained, and the funny thing is, neither has Firefox, Safari or Google Chrome.

Although I'm an avid Firefox fan and I try to get my friends and family away from IE, it's always my second browser and I like an easy backup browser which integrates well with Windows. I see this as the EU trying to make money or look for problems which aren't there.

I'm not sure if anyone noticed but as a result of the EU sanctions against Microsoft, Microsoft didn't incorporate Windows Media Player with European editions of Vista. However they stuck a little pop-up/balloon reminding you to download it (I'm guessing everybody downloads it). You just had to click the balloon and it downloaded it and installed it. So it's not like the EU achieved anything anyway, they still get people to download it.

Why don't the EU go after Linux Distro's and Apple too? Surely they may as well go for the whole Windows OS as almost all the software on Windows has a competitor somewhere? Microsoft aren't anti-competitive, they encourage developers and programmers to make rival software and allow them to easily implement it in Windows. Microsoft helped Mozilla intergrate Firefox with Vista when it was released and they have tech support lines to help developers.

It's wrong the EU goes after Microsoft but they achieve nothing anyway as MS will simply stick a balloon in telling you to download IE.

[Moh]

MS shouldnt have to advertise other browsers because other browsers don't advertise enough?

In what way could they advertise their browsers to people who have no clue about what a browser is?