Summer Heights High

[Art]

Did you even read the first definition? LOL.

Whatever, you keep believin what you want.

[Charli]

Seriously, if you dont like it, dont watch it.

i have to agree with techno.
im not sure if 'chasers war on everything' is a popular or well known show in the uk but i think it is similiar in essentials. these shows exist to shock. that's how they entertain. its black comedy and it isnt for everyone..
ultimately, no-one forces you to watch it. the networks approve it so it isn't as terrible as your making out.
also, virtual g, you mentioned that some people take parts of this show away with them and assume it is the truth. how mindless. i don't think comedians should have to dumb down their shows to suit the overly sensitive idiots in society. what they interpret, or misinterpret in this case, is their own problem.

[Blinger1]

Btw, the urban dictionaryy (the first temr that shows on the page) is reffering to the animal an orangutang,ds, and, even if it didn't start it, it's in support of it, and spread it around the world. Problem F'd up a couple of kids lives.

Dudes, its a joke... accept it as a comedy not because its insulting rangas... oh yeah, in Melbourne, everyone calls redheads: rangas/fire *****/fanta pants/red nut/fire crotch... you get to deal with it..

Its worse imo when you see a ranga-in-denial.. a ranga who dies their hair a different colour to hide the red/orange...

[Art]

omg rofl.

I hate rangas in denial. Its soooo obvious.

Pitch black hair, pale skin, RED EYEBROWS and freckles. no.

[VirtualG]

Did you even read the first definition? LOL.

Whatever, you keep believin what you want.

First of all I did, i just dont think you've read it properly and understand it.

Dudes, its a joke... accept it as a comedy not because its insulting rangas... oh yeah, in Melbourne, everyone calls redheads: rangas/fire *****/fanta pants/red nut/fire crotch... you get to deal with it..

Its worse imo when you see a ranga-in-denial.. a ranga who dies their hair a different colour to hide the red/orange...

Ok, It's still discrimination. How many shows calling people "*****" or "nip" (not meaning it in a discrminatig way, just as eamples), it's just as bad. The only reason you haven't seen an uprising of red heads, like nelson mandela, is because there are so few of them. If there were as many as there are black people you would say a thing.

omg rofl.

I hate rangas in denial. Its soooo obvious.

Pitch black hair, pale skin, RED EYEBROWS and freckles. no.

Ok, if anyone with other hair colour can dye their hair why is all a sudden denial, or a bad thing, if reds dye it? Its facist, no better than Nazi's. Blond hair and blue eyes, the "perfect race" It's just as facist and discriminist. Are we one day going to see fanatics, like there are in every group (fanatic musilms = suicide bombers, fanatic japanese = kamakazie attacks, fanatic racists = KKK), are we going to see it grow to mass genecide like with jewish people, or people non-germantic heritage (although it is quite unlikely). There have also been many killings in countries such as the US and UK over people with red hair. Many kids have also committed suicide due to teasing of red hair. Some people may take it as a joke and a commedy, but others might actually believe it is ok to tease others. And even if you are just teasing someone as a joke, and even if you say its a joke, and even still if the person getting teased says it ok, he or she may not just take it as a joke, either that or that can cop it soo much that they just snap one day. Although I think cancelling this show would not solve the problem of facism, it could slow the progress of it.

[Blinger1]

Oh fine, just go here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpk2F6rKVj0

This quote got me lol'ing

Jonah: A Ranga, sir. 'Cause he's got red hair, Orangatan. That's what we call them!
Teacher: And does that make it okay for him to be bullied? Because he has red hair.
Jonah: Well people are Racist to us, so we can be Racist to Rangas!
Teacher: But 'Red heads' aren't a race Jonah.
Leon: But Sir!! there's heaps of them! They're everywhere!

[Charli]

FTAO of virtual g..
im not sure whether you ignored my post or just didnt see it but ahh.. i really don't agree with what you're saying and i don't like letting an issue like this go unchallenged.

i have to agree with techno.
im not sure if 'chasers war on everything' is a popular or well known show in the uk but i think it is similiar in essentials. these shows exist to shock. that's how they entertain. its black comedy and it isnt for everyone..
ultimately, no-one forces you to watch it. the networks approve it so it isn't as terrible as your making out.
also, virtual g, you mentioned that some people take parts of this show away with them and assume it is the truth. how mindless. i don't think comedians should have to dumb down their shows to suit the overly sensitive idiots in society. what they interpret, or misinterpret in this case, is their own problem.

The programme explored the facets of a typical Australian public high school such as social cliques, bullying, teenage slang, stereotyping, profanity, racism and homophobia by showcasing three different individuals: the bully, the exchange student (originally from a private school) and the teacher.

It explores these issues - is it suddenly discrimination because its done in a comedic way? It's not as though Chris Lilley justifies the use of the word ranga. He is portraying the opinion of a character in his show. Why is that so bad? We see kids using drugs on tv. Just because the character uses them doesnt mean all kids should.. It doesn't send out the message that it's ok just because its there.. If people really are that easily brainwashed, they shouldnt be watching it.
You'll also notice that Jonah gets in trouble for saying ranga. It's not as though they are pinning a big medal on his chest and saying good work son.
I think its ridiculous that you believe this show has no right to be on air. I commend Chris Lilley for it infact.. All I know is I'd rather watch SHH then some chirpy teenage tv show that sugar coats everything.

[VirtualG]

FTAO of virtual g..
im not sure whether you ignored my post or just didnt see it but ahh.. i really don't agree with what you're saying and i don't like letting an issue like this go unchallenged.





It explores these issues - is it suddenly discrimination because its done in a comedic way? It's not as though Chris Lilley justifies the use of the word ranga. He is portraying the opinion of a character in his show. Why is that so bad? We see kids using drugs on tv. Just because the character uses them doesnt mean all kids should.. It doesn't send out the message that it's ok just because its there.. If people really are that easily brainwashed, they shouldnt be watching it.
You'll also notice that Jonah gets in trouble for saying ranga. It's not as though they are pinning a big medal on his chest and saying good work son.
I think its ridiculous that you believe this show has no right to be on air. I commend Chris Lilley for it infact.. All I know is I'd rather watch SHH then some chirpy teenage tv show that sugar coats everything.

Im not saying its discrimination because its in a comedic way, if you really believe it to be comedic, unless your another sadist. I believe it to be discrimination because the character in the show meant it in a racist way (although its discrimination, not racism, which are both similiar) And dont say he didn't, coz he is saying that he should be racist to us coz people are racist to him. Oh, and when you see kids on TV, and then kids go and take drugs, they aren't hurting anyone but themselves, unless they force it onto people, either that or they hurt their family, who should be taking better care of them if they let them have drugs without noticing. And once again, I never said these kids would be "brainwashed" or would do it to insult some one, i said that some might just mean it as a joke with a mate or classmate, and then one day, once the kid has copped it a little too much for a little too long, he will just snap. I saw it happen, not by a ranga, but it ended up with two kids in hospital, and one of them with a pen stuck in his arm.
I dont think chasers war on everything is a good show either. Wouldn't you be pissed off if your brother is diying in hospital and you saw that so called "black comedy"? Well my mate is. It's been all over the news and the majority of people are bloody angry with this type of humour, its called sadism when you get pleasure out of others suffering or make fun of their suffering.
And saying that Johnah got in trouble and didn't get a reward wouldn't really bother the majority of the people who would tease others as they are like him, bag people out, and dont give a crap about the conciquences! And i never said I would like to only show shows that sugar coat everything, maybe if shows and media like this, along with other facism, ten there would be no need to sugar code the whole "ranga" factor as it wouldn't be around. And rangas arent the only people being bagged out in this show, bisexuals, polynesians, obese, ******ed, homosexual, transvestites and many more are all being bagged out in this show, if you haven't noticed, red heads just seem to be the main target.

Oh fine, just go here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpk2F6rKVj0

This quote got me lol'ing

It's not actually saying sorry, its just hyping it up. And just because these kids were victims of racism doesn't mean that have any right to discriminate against anyone else. Although I think its wrong to be racist against them either.

Ohh, and If i missed any points, please not them down, ill be happy to shame you again!
:eusa_clap

[Charli]

shame me? this isnt highschool.

ill number these so you don't skip through and answer the points you find convenient instead of debating most of the points i was making.
1.

I believe it to be discrimination because the character in the show meant it in a racist way

The show confronts racism. so what? that's not illegal. are we supposed to ignore the realities in society and pretend they arent even there?
racism is an issue in dozens of tv shows and movies, are they as "unsuitable and terrible" as SHH?
2.

I dont think chasers war on everything is a good show either. Wouldn't you be pissed off if your brother is diying in hospital and you saw that so called "black comedy"?

Like i said previously.. black comedy isn't for everyone. that's a problem easily solved though. TURN OFF YOUR TV. some people tend to enjoy it and i don't see why the world should have to revolve around what YOU think is suitable. the networks allow it and you might be suprised to know its won awards!
3.

And saying that Johnah got in trouble and didn't get a reward wouldn't really bother the majority of the people who would tease others as they are like him, bag people out, and dont give a crap about the conciquences!

What other children do as a result of this tv show isnt SHH's responsibility. It exists to entertain. It might not be what you consider morally "correct" but its entertainment all the same. Mature viewers take it as a laugh and nothing more. I guess that's the difference between you and me.

[VirtualG]

shame me? this isnt highschool.

ill number these so you don't skip through and answer the points you find convenient instead of debating most of the points i was making.
1.
The show confronts racism. so what? that's not illegal. are we supposed to ignore the realities in society and pretend they arent even there?
racism is an issue in dozens of tv shows and movies, are they as "unsuitable and terrible" as SHH?
2.
Like i said previously.. black comedy isn't for everyone. that's a problem easily solved though. TURN OFF YOUR TV. some people tend to enjoy it and i don't see why the world should have to revolve around what YOU think is suitable. the networks allow it and you might be suprised to know its won awards!
3.
What other children do as a result of this tv show isnt SHH's responsibility. It exists to entertain. It might not be what you consider morally "correct" but its entertainment all the same. Mature viewers take it as a laugh and nothing more. I guess that's the difference between you and me.

First of all, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shame, read it, you can get shamed at any time in your life.
1.It's not "Confronting" racism, it is a type of comedy, "black comedy" as you said earlier, dont go back on your beliefs. If this show was to front up to racism and discrimination it wouldn't be making people, like the red heads, get teased because it isn't confronting it, how is teasing someone on tv as comedy confronting the problem, even if they get into trouble?
2.Like I said previously... Black Comedy isn't for everyone, it actually pisses people off, whether they watch it or not. My problem isn't with saidsm, (which i'll just state for those who dont remember, saidsm is when people enjoy, or get pleasure out of other pain, eg, a bully out of teasing) and how they like black comedy, my problem is, LIKE I'VE SAID SOOO MANY TIMES, that if kids see this show and use it in real life, even as a joke, even if they say its a joke and apologise, and even to a best mate, if it happens over and over again the kid might snap after being called "Hey RANGA!, naah man, im just jokin" Once or twice from his best mate might be ok, but over and over and he or she could lose it. So even if I dont watch it, others might, others might be this kids friends, others might tease him as a joke, and it might go too far. I've seen it happen. So can you please stop repeating this same point over and over, because I've refuted it over and over, and we keep getting back to this point, it's wrong, come up with a ned way against this point or come up with a new point! Oh, and by the way, this show won awards, but that doesn't make it ok to tease rangas, or not even mean to tease ranga but just "confront", as you say, and make a comedy out of it because when other people see it as a joke, they use it as a joke, but not all people take it as a joke. The people who voted it in for awards are probably all saidsts. now whats you last point...
3The difference between me and you is your an idiot. What kids do after watching the show is not SHH's responsibility, not making a show that could trigger what they do afterwards is the responsibility. Can i also say something, do you locking people up in dungeons and throwing rocks at them is entertaining? Do you think whipping bears to dance is entertaining? Do you think watching two people fight each other to the death in a colossuem is entertain? If you do, your pretty sick. They all gain fun, enjoyment and "entertainment" out of others pain, just like this show causes, just like a bully get from teasing an innocent, poor, DEFENCELESS little kid! And even if some people laugh at it, then they are supporting something that could trigger something much worse, even if they dont say ranga themselves, or make a discriminating joke, if they watch that show, they are supporting that show, the show which can help cause it. I have moral standards, everyones equaleveryone has a right in this country to be able who they want to be without conviction (it says so in our constitution), everyone is unique, but we are all equal all the same, and I know it and believe it! I guess thats the difference between you and me...


Now before i end this post I have to say....

SHAME!!!