General Election ~ Should one be called now?

[Hecktix]

At the start of June it was becoming apparent that the Labour Government were facing certain difficulties, certain members of the cabinet resigned and labour lost a substantial amount of votes during the European Parliament elections.

It has been called by David Cameron (the opposition leader), leaders of other parties such as the Lib Dems & UKIP along with even a couple of members of the Labour Party that Gordon Brown should set a date for the next General Election and make it sooner rather than later.

A General Election must be called by Summer 2010, however the above want one earlier.

I believe that Gordon Brown is right not to call a general election at the moment, as he has to gain trust in a lot of the British people to retain their vote in the General Election.

But we'll see..
What do you think?

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think we should have a general election to get rid of the cheating corrupt MPs we have and this failure of a government, especially as they are trying to ram through the Lisbon Treaty as their last slap on the face to the United Kingdom. In essence i'm sick of Gordon Brown saying he needs to gain peoples trust and how lessons have been learnt when they never are, people have had a taste of the Gordon Brown experience and the European Parliament Elections and the opinion polls show us people want him and Labour out and now.

[Immenseman]

Being relatively neutral aka I don't care I can see both sides of the argument. It's obvious why Brown wants to delay it until Summer 2010, he needs to have time to try and get some support back. He's not stupid he knows if he called one now it's very unlikely him and labour will win. However, I can understand why Cameron and the other major party leaders want an election now. Labour are weak and they want to take advantage. Plus, arguably it's time for change and with all the scandal that has engulfed us over the last couple of months.

[LuketheDuke]

The Lisbon Treaty which Undertaker hasnt even read...

For gods sake read it before you talk trash about it, makes you look completely ignorant.

As for an election Brown has a mandate for another year so I'm not totally fussed. The worse it gets hopefully for both main parties the more chance it gives the Greens for potential seats in the Commons. Fingers crossed!

[-:Undertaker:-]

The Lisbon Treaty which Undertaker hasnt even read...

For gods sake read it before you talk trash about it, makes you look completely ignorant.

As for an election Brown has a mandate for another year so I'm not totally fussed. The worse it gets hopefully for both main parties the more chance it gives the Greens for potential seats in the Commons. Fingers crossed!

You mean like the former Europe Minister (Labour), Caroline Flint didn't read it?

There is nothing more to it, it is giving the European Union more power and allows it to act as a state on the international platform. Am I not allowed an opinion in an election because I haven't read all the manifestos? - no.

The supporters of the Lisbon Treaty also admit it is exactly the same as the former Consitution - why will you eurocrats not accept that nobody wants the European Union?

[Sammeth.]

LISBON TREATTTTTTYYY!

I can understand why they want him out out out, but holding a general election now isn't exactly the best option in my opinion. I think Gordon Brown should stick it out, who knows what he could pull out the bag. Its unfortunate that people only focus on the negatives than having an overall look at it, but I guess its the way voters go. Stick it out till 2010 I say, then when the time comes when they have to (or if Labour get a huge surge of support) then hold one :8

Edit: I want the European Union, so nobody is a bit of an overstatement

[-:Undertaker:-]

LISBON TREATTTTTTYYY!

I can understand why they want him out out out, but holding a general election now isn't exactly the best option in my opinion. I think Gordon Brown should stick it out, who knows what he could pull out the bag. Its unfortunate that people only focus on the negatives than having an overall look at it, but I guess its the way voters go. Stick it out till 2010 I say, then when the time comes when they have to (or if Labour get a huge surge of support) then hold one :8

Edit: I want the European Union, so nobody is a bit of an overstatement

If there was an amazing fanbase for the European Union then why won't the governments across Europe hold referendums?, more to the point why is the European Union making the Republic of Ireland vote again?

The word 'no' just doesn't seem to register with eurocrats.

[LuketheDuke]

^ There we go, shows that Undertaker's own personal views aren't that of the nation and his disregard to accept anyone elses opinions only harms his arguments.

[-:Undertaker:-]

^ There we go, shows that Undertaker's own personal views aren't that of the nation and his disregard to accept anyone elses opinions only harms his arguments.

I can't believe i'm being told by a EU supporter that my views don't reflect those of the nation. I am afraid they do, the French, Dutch, Irish all rejected it and it would of been rejected if we had been given the referendum we were promised.

Can I ask, would you support the proposal for the whole of Europe to have a referendum on whether or not they want their country to be in the European Union?

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Would you support the United Kingdom having a referendum on the Libson Treaty?

[LuketheDuke]

Go for it and I'd vote yes, as would many others.

But thats not the purpose of this thread, this is about a General Election.

And on that matter I dont care when we have an election just so far as Labour and the Conservatives are stung heavily for being the small minded, corrupt politicians that they are. :eusa_danc