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    No, definitely not.

    Innocent 'criminals' get killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Craig

    That for example, the old Christopher Craig story back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    i think you're right for the first one, wrong for the second. my parents have never hit me (or even grounded me), limited my use of the computer or done much at all really and I haven't had any trouble with police at all.
    Me neither :/ Infact, the ideas behind what our parents do or do to us is aload of bull crap.

    My dad smoked, and he told myself and my two brothers not to smoke or do drugs, saying it's a discusting habit (hypocritcal, yes) - he smoked ever since he was very young, so 50+ years of an addiction would be incredibly difficult to tackle when trying to stop - he tried, got ulsers and got very ill. None of us have smoked or done drugs, ask Mentor and he may give you a lecture on how badly I HATE smoking and drugs - I swore at one of friends and two other friends for encouraging it, wasn't very happy He never really hit us, he was rough haded with my older brother, but picking a (was) 7 year old, chucking them in a chair and shouting at him was hardly whipping them with a belt.

    So yeah, hitting children doesn't mean all children will be good citizens, arguably hitting children causes distance between the child and the parent(s)/guadians - shouting is usually what stops children from mis-behaving, it's sort of what dealt with children at school. Nowadays teachers ***** foot around pupils, making sure they keep their jobs at the end of the day, rather than teaching the little beggars to behave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    i think you're right for the first one, wrong for the second. my parents have never hit me (or even grounded me), limited my use of the computer or done much at all really and I haven't had any trouble with police at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Me neither :/ Infact, the ideas behind what our parents do or do to us is aload of bull crap.

    My dad smoked, and he told myself and my two brothers not to smoke or do drugs, saying it's a discusting habit (hypocritcal, yes) - he smoked ever since he was very young, so 50+ years of an addiction would be incredibly difficult to tackle when trying to stop - he tried, got ulsers and got very ill. None of us have smoked or done drugs, ask Mentor and he may give you a lecture on how badly I HATE smoking and drugs - I swore at one of friends and two other friends for encouraging it, wasn't very happy He never really hit us, he was rough haded with my older brother, but picking a (was) 7 year old, chucking them in a chair and shouting at him was hardly whipping them with a belt.

    So yeah, hitting children doesn't mean all children will be good citizens, arguably hitting children causes distance between the child and the parent(s)/guadians - shouting is usually what stops children from mis-behaving, it's sort of what dealt with children at school. Nowadays teachers ***** foot around pupils, making sure they keep their jobs at the end of the day, rather than teaching the little beggars to behave.
    I am no way saying it is the most tried and tested alternative/deterent to crime, but I know it worked in my case. My Dad tried all of the above ways of stopping me misbehave, but I was still a brat until he gave me a whipping with his belt, and it has certainly stopped me from doing the things that have earned me the belt from their on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foskett View Post
    I think that if you kill someone, you should receive the death penalty regardless of the situation (unless it's in self-defense, or accidental) if you take another persons life. As why should you be granted a life, while the person you murdered doesn't get that option?

    So if some mad man comes running at you with a knife and is gonna stab you, you wouldn't hurt them (and matybe accidently kill them)? And if you did escape with your life, but sadly killed a murderer you think you should be killed to?

    Something should be done, maybe the death sentance, as at the moment Britain is a corrupt state. Those ******s in jail who complain about their ******* human rights (After they have murdered about 5 people), should get cut up in the most painful way possible. The *******s should rot in hell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom C View Post
    So if some mad man comes running at you with a knife and is gonna stab you, you wouldn't hurt them (and matybe accidently kill them)? And if you did escape with your life, but sadly killed a murderer you think you should be killed to?
    Obviously if it was in self defense (s)he should not be charged with anything, as (s)he was protecting his/her own life. But if someone kills someone intentionally (other than self defense), they should receive the death penalty regardless. I'd honestly spend my life in jail, alive, than dead. But that might just be me..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foskett View Post
    Obviously if it was in self defense (s)he should not be charged with anything, as (s)he was protecting his/her own life. But if someone kills someone intentionally (other than self defense), they should receive the death penalty regardless. I'd honestly spend my life in jail, alive, than dead. But that might just be me..

    Oh sorry I just realised you said 'Unless'

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    I personally don't think the death penalty should be put back into ways of punishment.
    I think it's just the easy way out. Instead of that person who has committed a crime living up to what they have done, they get to be killed, and not ever be seen or heard of ever again.
    Where as if they were put into prison, and let out after some time (depending on what crime they have committed) they would have to live up to the humilliation when they go out, the torture of the guilt, (again, depending on this person's personallity) and just knowing what they have done, and how that has to follow them to their grave.

    For exmaple:

    Say if a human gets charged with rape, and gets let out after say, 5 years (not too sure about crime times ) and the case was so huge, that it was broadcast all over the UK and millions of people knows this person's face. One day he/she goes out to get some eggs cos' he/she fancies a fry up, and someone who has seen this case sees this person in the shop. Chances are, this member of the public will be pretty annoyed, and maybe attack this person or shout abuse at this person. The person will feel worthless, and unliked. The Family of this person might not be supportive of this person, his/her friends could turn and hate them for what they have done. By now, I suppose you would probably get the point.

    ANYWAY..if this person was sentanced to death, there would just be satisfaction of knowing he/she is dead, but there is so much more that they can pay for, SO much more.

    If you generally get my point, then post up, but if you're just gonna' slate, don't bother I won't lower down to that level, I have my opinion and I've chosen to share it with you.

    EDIT: Ah, and another thing, what if someone was tried for something they DID NOT DO, and given the death sentance?
    That would be devastating for the Family and friends of this person.

    Thanks for reading!
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    Quote Originally Posted by syko2006 View Post
    I personally don't think the death penalty should be put back into ways of punishment.
    I think it's just the easy way out. Instead of that person who has committed a crime living up to what they have done, they get to be killed, and not ever be seen or heard of ever again.
    Where as if they were put into prison, and let out after some time (depending on what crime they have committed) they would have to live up to the humilliation when they go out, the torture of the guilt, (again, depending on this person's personallity) and just knowing what they have done, and how that has to follow them to their grave.
    If it were the "easy way out," then don't you think every criminal in jail would kill themselves? Obviously they'd rather live their life in jail, than be dead. Seeing as it'd be quite easy for them to kill themselves, and take the "easy way out". But for some reason they don't, and choose to live.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foskett View Post
    If it were the "easy way out," then don't you think every criminal in jail would kill themselves? Obviously they'd rather live their life in jail, than be dead. Seeing as it'd be quite easy for them to kill themselves, and take the "easy way out". But for some reason they don't, and choose to live.
    Most criminals get used to jail and jail life and in fact documentaries show that many of them see jail as a "second home". and a few of them can actually come out worse than they all ready were simply due to the fact that they are around the same kind.

    However bringing the death penalty back would not be a solution! As some user said in an earlier post "It's contradicting itself" and they question has to be asked ~

    Will two wrongs make a right?

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