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Thread: Does God Exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Addict View Post
    Very simply How?

    how would you know if chemicals were there before time / the universe, there is no proof, it has the same theorys and beliefs science if you did not know is all based on therorys we don't have enough techno to prove any of this is true so just like christianity / jewdaism and so on science is a belief... its just how you put science as a perspective.
    You're right it is just another form of belief, but what sets is aside is that it attempts to explain phenomenon rather than stating it was done by a higher power. If everyone did believe that god existed, science's perspective would be different, from did matter already exist? or what made it come into existance? into how did god make it? how did he bring it into existance? Religion doesn't hold these answers, its just gods will and he created it, end of that, which in many peoples opinion doesn't seem right considering no one has every seen god who is alive today with any proof, latter to that there is no proof that god even exists other than belief and the religions defining what is a miracle and divine. The Bible was written over 100 years after Jesus' death (you can find this out through scientific analysis and dated records from that era), yet many people believe it to be the word of god without question as to whether the gospals even met Jesus' or someone who knew him, and there is no mention that the gospals were given this knowledge from god. Many people don't even know that many of the stories and personal accounts within the bible were selected when the new testement was created, so many don't even know that the bible they have isn't the real and complete one (considering the bible has been translated many times over, different perspectives have tainted it though the ages and the main body of power within that religion has dicated what will be in the bible and what will be excluded from it).

    So it is easy to disprove god through scientific evidence and the low validity of god, the bible and the gospals. Also knowing that the religion itself can say whatever it pleases and claim it to be divine and gods choosing does makes you question why the religion is doing this when there is no mention that god has decided it himself.
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    My mind can't comprehend the existance of an almighty being, unfortunately. That video is also absolutely idiotic. Just because the human eye far exceeds the complexity of anything else on this planet how does that beg the question "does God exist?" :S

    Reminds me of something 8Freak8 said in a thread I made about evolution and God a few years ago.

    "Also another argument is if a hurricane ripped through a junkyard, how likely is it that a machine as complex as a Boeing 747 could be put together? The universe being many times more complex is therefore even more unlikely to come together by random processes.

    The point is though, that if you had a junkyard that was abundant with everything that is needed to make a Boeing 747, and if all of these things had specific charges to attract each other (like molecules), then there is at least a very very very very remote possibility of this happening - as long as you have one constant hurricane in a junkyard for billions of years."

    Just like the universe, the human eye does not need a creator to be so complex. Things happen by pure coincidence. At least that's what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    My mind can't comprehend the existance of an almighty being, unfortunately. That video is also absolutely idiotic. Just because the human eye far exceeds the complexity of anything else on this planet how does that beg the question "does God exist?" :S

    Reminds me of something 8Freak8 said in a thread I made about evolution and God a few years ago.

    "Also another argument is if a hurricane ripped through a junkyard, how likely is it that a machine as complex as a Boeing 747 could be put together? The universe being many times more complex is therefore even more unlikely to come together by random processes.

    The point is though, that if you had a junkyard that was abundant with everything that is needed to make a Boeing 747, and if all of these things had specific charges to attract each other (like molecules), then there is at least a very very very very remote possibility of this happening - as long as you have one constant hurricane in a junkyard for billions of years."

    Just like the universe, the human eye does not need a creator to be so complex. Things happen by pure coincidence. At least that's what I think.
    Like saying that it isn't impossible, but highly inprobable, it doesn't change the fact that it can occur by chance. Like the example of an infinite amount of monkeys typing on an infinite amount of typewriters could eventually create the exact and complete works of Shakesheare.

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    I dont think he does, im more of the evolution theory

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    I don't because:

    • No proof about God.
    • Adam & Eve = Everyone is related in some way.
    • Mary = You can't have a baby still being a virgin.
    • God would save people who have done nothing wrong.
    Just little things I tend to think about Fair enough if you do but I haven't be bought up thinking of God much

    I do believe there are points that help prove God

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7799car View Post
    I don't because:

    • No proof about God.
    • Adam & Eve = Everyone is related in some way.
    • Mary = You can't have a baby still being a virgin.
    • God would save people who have done nothing wrong.
    Just little things I tend to think about Fair enough if you do but I haven't be bought up thinking of God much

    I do believe there are points that help prove God
    I do agree with this, I have always thought about Adam and Eve and how if this true we are like all related.
    Hi

    Wow, it's been a while.

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    If you believe in god, it means he exists to you.
    I can't remember who it was, but someone said "if god did exist, it wouldn't be necessary to invent him"




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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly.22 View Post
    I do agree with this, I have always thought about Adam and Eve and how if this true we are like all related.
    It isn't, at least to certain religious groups, they believe that Adam & Eve is an example of what took part during Genesis when Man was created, only naive and blind believers really believe this story to be true.

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    weres the evadance that god doesn't exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kizza149 View Post
    weres the evadance that god doesn't exist?
    Where's the evidence that Joe Bloggs isn't eating a muffin in Surrey?

    I tend to take the sceptical approach by using what Christians use against them. If the Bible was written by man, an imperfect creation of God, then how do we know that the Bible is from God? It could be a creation by the Devil, there is that possibility - God has little to no control over the Devil, but the Devil has just about as much power as God, even though the existence of a Devil is limited to possibly false translations of the Bible from what is defined as evil, or the evil one.

    That said, I go to church every Sunday to do their presentations on a laptop and projector, the people are incredibly nice and I find the church useful for the community. It's just a shame the church can't really exist without the idea of a deity and a holy book Considering it's the faith which makes alot of church volunteers (one that look after the elderly, walk around busy towns, villagers and cities dealking with drunks, and hosting events) do all these things for free, becuase it will earn them brownie points.

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