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Thread: Does God Exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSpoons View Post
    I believe in the Greek & Norse Mythology because it's much more interesting, what did God do, not much..?

    And I do believe it was evolution/science that started the human race.
    Good, I am not the only one.

    About something someone said - Adam&Eve. I believe that we are all related through the first two humans on Earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmv View Post
    Good, I am not the only one.

    About something someone said - Adam&Eve. I believe that we are all related through the first two humans on Earth
    Lol . I prefer Egyptian Mythology myself, don't mind the Greek Mythology either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Sarcastix. View Post
    You know gravity exists because you can feel its force keeping us on the planet like when you jump etc. The example of gravity is a good one, but you can feel it effects and you can see the effects, you drop a ball, it doesn't stay in place, it falls, hence the physical and visable effect of gravity. We know that there a certain fish in the ocean although we haven't seen them due to their ancestry and fossils, hence, they did exist because we can see their remains. I did explain this in another post relating to god, that he hasn't made an appearance in a while, what proof is there that he existed in the past, a bible and historical texts written at least a hundred years after Jesus died and over a thousand years after god created the universe. So I do agree with what you said, I was explaining something to someone in my last post (at least I think, I was drunk at the time), so it might not be literal as much as an example of what I was trying to put across.
    People say they know God exists because they believe he is currently preforming miracles. Ok, how about I use molecules as an example? Before science allowed us to see them, we could not see, hear or feel them. Does that mean molecules didn't exist until humans saw them? That's obviously an absurd acquisition. That's why I said 'if God exists why is there no sign that 'he' was ever here?' was a better argument. Although 'he' is supposedly 'limitless and unknowable' a lot of people believe that God created the wonders of the world. There is of course still many unexplained mysteries out there that could also pass as being 'works of God'. Some people claim that God revealed 'himself' to them as well. So the proof that 'he' might exist or might have existed is there, but of course it's unexplainable. Know one knows for sure who created the wonders, and miracles are pure coincidence in my opinion, and the other could easily be lying about God's appearance. But anyway, just because we can't see, hear or feel something and the fact that this something has left no proof of existance still doesn't prove it does not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    People say they know God exists because they believe he is currently preforming miracles. Ok, how about I use molecules as an example? Before science allowed us to see them, we could not see, hear or feel them. Does that mean molecules didn't exist until humans saw them? That's obviously an absurd acquisition. That's why I said 'if God exists why is there no sign that 'he' was ever here?' was a better argument. Although 'he' is supposedly 'limitless and unknowable' a lot of people believe that God created the wonders of the world. There is of course still many unexplained mysteries out there that could also pass as being 'works of God'. Some people claim that God revealed 'himself' to them as well. So the proof that 'he' might exist or might have existed is there, but of course it's unexplainable. Know one knows for sure who created the wonders, and miracles are pure coincidence in my opinion, and the other could easily be lying about God's appearance. But anyway, just because we can't see, hear or feel something and the fact that this something has left no proof of existance still doesn't prove it does not exist.
    I do agree with everything you've said, I was explaining to someone what I meant from an earlier post, using an example like popular consensus and why people choose not to believe in god and what they would define as proof, it wasn't my actual opinion on the matter . Personally I don't think that the person god does exist, but I do believe that there are higher powers and higher forms of life in the universe. Whether they're influencing our life or aided in our evolution I don't know, but considering there are many stages of life on our planet, it not reasonable to assume we are the height of evolution on our planet or even the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    People say they know God exists because they believe he is currently preforming miracles. Ok, how about I use molecules as an example? Before science allowed us to see them, we could not see, hear or feel them. Does that mean molecules didn't exist until humans saw them? That's obviously an absurd acquisition. That's why I said 'if God exists why is there no sign that 'he' was ever here?' was a better argument. Although 'he' is supposedly 'limitless and unknowable' a lot of people believe that God created the wonders of the world. There is of course still many unexplained mysteries out there that could also pass as being 'works of God'. Some people claim that God revealed 'himself' to them as well. So the proof that 'he' might exist or might have existed is there, but of course it's unexplainable. Know one knows for sure who created the wonders, and miracles are pure coincidence in my opinion, and the other could easily be lying about God's appearance. But anyway, just because we can't see, hear or feel something and the fact that this something has left no proof of existance still doesn't prove it does not exist.
    It's called faith

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    Personally, I believe in God. I believe in intelligent design, not evolution.

    I don't think we came from monkeys. I don't believe we came from fish, eggs, pens, paper, or a turd.

    People say there is no evidence that God exists, but check out this article.. don't just scan over it.. actually read it.. it speaks some truth..

    http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

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    I don't care, i'm not interested, that sound's very ignorant but it's the simple truth. Why should I spend my life worrying if there is some God out there that does or does not exist? It slows you down if you ask me. I don't see what that video is doing either, it doesn't prove anything imo. Some people like the idea of there being a God up there protecting us and watching over us, others see it differently. Many people take it to the extreme and think that because other people believe in God then they should somehow pay the price physically :S. I think there are people who believe in God because they like the feeling if they fall they have someone to catch them if you know what I mean. However I cannot stand people who are glad if their children don't believe in god, and are anti-catholic, it's like, well if you don't believe in God, then fine, but you don't have to be glad if your children don't believe in god either - it's their choice :S. Someone I know is Anti-Catholic and everyone think's he's a really bad person because of it, but who's to say that being Anti-Catholic is a bad thing? I mean especially how that Church have some hidden dark secrets of their own. I totally agree with "we can't just live for about 80 or 90 years and then die and it's as simple as that, there has to be something out there, something else" I don't believe in faith because I don't like the idea that i'm not in control of my life.

    So my overall answer is: no, I don't believe in God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dentafrice View Post
    It's called faith
    There are people who faithfully believe the sofa's talking to them and that a small irish lepricorn wants them to burn things. Faith means nothing.

    Personally, I believe in God. I believe in intelligent design, not evolution.
    Belife in god is fine. Belief in creationism, even with some fail-science thrown in on the other hand is hard to justify. ID was disproved in less than 3 minutes when a real scientist simply proved the claims its based on were outright lies. Both the flangla and the eye exist to this day in various stages of there evolution, something ID claims is impossible.
    Evolution has a great deal of proof and can be seen happening minute to minute. People often confuse the facts and the theory of evolution. Evolution takes place, this is a fact. Exactly how the process works, thats the theory.

    Evolution does happen, its been proven to happen, you can go see it happen yourself. The super bug, swine and bird blue are all examples of this.

    I don't think we came from monkeys. I don't believe we came from fish, eggs, pens, paper, or a turd.
    Fish is the only one of those things thats actually suggested we once had an ancestor in, even that would have little resemblance to the species we find today.

    People say there is no evidence that God exists, but check out this article.. don't just scan over it.. actually read it.. it speaks some truth..

    http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
    There is no evidence, just some poor reasoning, fail science and outright lies on a few subject. I think i may be slightly dummer from the experience of even reading the first few paragraphs...

    Dont link arguments, make them yourself or dont make em at all,is my stance. Else feel free to browser some scientific journals on your own accord

    There is no more proof of god than there is Barney the invisible purple dinosaur (although barny doesn't contradict himself as much and is much less evil), nothing suggests a god, nore ever has. Its pure fantasy. Feel free to come back with some evidence, but i doubt you'll find any.

    I'm an Atheist for a reason
    Last edited by Mentor; 17-08-2009 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dentafrice View Post
    It's called faith

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    Personally, I believe in God. I believe in intelligent design, not evolution.

    I don't think we came from monkeys. I don't believe we came from fish, eggs, pens, paper, or a turd.

    People say there is no evidence that God exists, but check out this article.. don't just scan over it.. actually read it.. it speaks some truth..

    http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
    The first section is completely based on data which was disproven ages ago, for example: there are many forms of life which would thrive on Mars in comparison to Earth, but are here nonetheless, just because this planet is capable of supporting our form of life doesn't mean that it was created from intelligent design, otherwise why are there other forms of life which would be perfectly suited to life on other planets but are here instead. Also the Moon is not in perfect position, it began much closer of earth and is gradually moving farther and farther away, if god did indeed place it, why is he choosing to put it farther away causing mass damage to the earth and which will eventually kill everyone. And one last thing, the earth is not in a perfect position to the Sun, its in a 'safe' place is all, the word being safe, and it wasn't always in this little zone either, even Mars is on the outer rim and will eventually enter it in the next millenia or so, and Earth will be leaving it heading into an inferno similar to Venus and Mercury. If god wants us to stay on this planet, why do this, why force us into moving, why not make a sun which doesn't die out and kill us.

    Also the DNA code is an example of evolution, after every evolution, more data is added to our DNA, previous behaviours, characteristics and whatnot, why would we need this data considering it isn't required and in many cases causes more problems than solve them, they are a by-product of our evolution. Some of the oldest lifeforms on the planet which have evolved many times over have even more complex DNA than we do, why, there would be no point considering they are lower forms of life in comparison to us and their previous data holds no impact or chance of improvement on our part. Our DNA began quite simple and no impact until other chemicals and other genes began to inter mix and triggered evolution.

    The rest can be countermanded in much the same way as they've presented their arguement. Simply put, it's there take on scientific knowledge, nothing more, nothing less, trying to justify that science itself if a product of god, we just aren't accepting it, and well that may be true, but not having someone say that they created it does pose the question of why he doesn't show that he did it, instead of telling a civilization which existed 2000 years ago which had no understanding of such concepts. It is possible that we were created by intelligent design, but untill thats proven to be fact, the universe and our existance will be known to us as a random and quite rare phenomenon (considering we haven't found other living lifeforms on other planets as yet).

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    I do not belive in god simply because there is more evidance that backs up evolution than there does being a god.

    However i belive everything happens for a reason. And that life is a chain reaction


    thats a biast report, thats blatently writen by a beliver of god.
    Last edited by Special; 17-08-2009 at 11:30 PM.

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    Well I'm not going to respond to all that, because it's your opinion.. and you can say all you want about it.. and I'll respect it.

    But I believe what I believe, whether these scientists "prove it wrong" over and over.

    I'm a Christian, and I try to live a good life.. and if what I believe turns out to be "wrong", then I'll die happy living a good life.. and will have lost nothing.

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