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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    why? because Britain and Europe aren't Christian nations? :S
    If you're referring to the second point, it's just my opinion that religion is a load of tosh. Talk about brainwashing suicide bombers etc/ religions brainwash their followers with all the craptosh about things. You can't deny that either, you "believe" in stuff which means they've brainwashed you. Still, I am a pastafarian myself but if you research that you'll find out why it's not hypocritical.

    On the first point - because we pay some dude in Belgium like £40m a day to be part of the EU... and then that dude in Belgium does something like this to Italy and expect more to come because that dude in Belgium will have more power than Hitler.

    Done and done.

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    Strangely, religion does have it's benefits. Alot of churches have day centres run by volunteers for the elderly and all the way down to new born babies. It's a free service, and without it, no-one would particularly want to do the volunteering and alot of vulnerable, elderly people and young mums and families will have some drawbacks. Charities obvious are set up to help, Macmilan etc, but asking them to do more would be strain on their resources, while churches can only just cope at the moment with theirs from services and hall renting. Not forgeting they are incredibly charitable towards the poor and other countries, a few from the local church when to Kenya to help at a orphanage and had done amazing work out there.

    So don't start doubting the point behind Christianity in this country, because it's quite a valuable and under-rated asset to the country and the services provided. The religion side of things is arguably aload of pants, but they make up for it with what they do in their local communities. Heck, Parish councils is a kind of giveaway, and they do a damn better job than the normal councils, because unlike the normal councils, they have a guilty conscience (hell and all that evil stuff).
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyflux View Post
    And if you don't vote UKIP this sort of thing will happen in our country.

    Still, crucifixes should be banned everywhere - religion should be banned altogther. [/seperatepoint].
    As an atheist, I still believe religion has many benefits, as Gomme also mentioned. I think the biggest point is that religion leads to the fear of God which prevents people doing insane stuff. It creates the possibility of ultimate consequences. If you really think about what the world would be like had there never been any religions, it's extremely scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thyflux View Post
    If you're referring to the second point, it's just my opinion that religion is a load of tosh. Talk about brainwashing suicide bombers etc/ religions brainwash their followers with all the craptosh about things. You can't deny that either, you "believe" in stuff which means they've brainwashed you. Still, I am a pastafarian myself but if you research that you'll find out why it's not hypocritical.

    On the first point - because we pay some dude in Belgium like £40m a day to be part of the EU... and then that dude in Belgium does something like this to Italy and expect more to come because that dude in Belgium will have more power than Hitler.

    Done and done.
    I find you just insulted billions of people without even thinking about it.
    Congrats? No.

    It's not "craptosh" seeing how I haven't seen many Christian suicide bombers? Damn you're so hypocritical, I don't care if you're a pastafarian you're saying everyone religion brainwashes people to be suicide bombers which is not true.

    Done and done.

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Strangely, religion does have it's benefits. Alot of churches have day centres run by volunteers for the elderly and all the way down to new born babies. It's a free service, and without it, no-one would particularly want to do the volunteering and alot of vulnerable, elderly people and young mums and families will have some drawbacks. Charities obvious are set up to help, Macmilan etc, but asking them to do more would be strain on their resources, while churches can only just cope at the moment with theirs from services and hall renting. Not forgeting they are incredibly charitable towards the poor and other countries, a few from the local church when to Kenya to help at a orphanage and had done amazing work out there.

    So don't start doubting the point behind Christianity in this country, because it's quite a valuable and under-rated asset to the country and the services provided. The religion side of things is arguably aload of pants, but they make up for it with what they do in their local communities. Heck, Parish councils is a kind of giveaway, and they do a damn better job than the normal councils, because unlike the normal councils, they have a guilty conscience (hell and all that evil stuff).
    Quote Originally Posted by Robald View Post
    As an atheist, I still believe religion has many benefits, as Gomme also mentioned. I think the biggest point is that religion leads to the fear of God which prevents people doing insane stuff. It creates the possibility of ultimate consequences. If you really think about what the world would be like had there never been any religions, it's extremely scary.
    Yeah it's kinda creepy, but I spose you can get used to it
    "There are only two important days in your life: the day you are born, and the day you find out why."
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