The BNP - Good or Bad?

[-:Undertaker:-]

I said in my mind thats what the equivalent is, I didn't say it was the actual equivalent.

When I was writing the part about whether I think he believes what he was saying, what I was trying to put across is he is using his freedom of speech to make a controversial opinion and also with the intention of defending the actions of the Nazi's. What you're not getting is my point that he is exploiting the right to freedom of speech.. thats all i've said.

I'm not actually trying to fade the subject of beliefs into a hate issue, he doesn't just believe in something he feels the need to spread this hatred into the public domain, thats what I don't like. Nick Griffin takes advantage of those who have no real opinion for themselves and therefore take upon the most extreme in their time of need. That's how the Nazi's got into power and it seems as though the lesson hasn't yet been learnt because his mission is to do the same thing all over again and he's being allowed to.

If you continue to try and silence the British National Party in undemocratic ways then you will give them more support, and personally i'd wish them good luck because its not them who are trying to ban free speech, so who are the real Nazis it makes you wonder.

[Tash.]

If you continue to try and silence the British National Party in undemocratic ways then you will give them more support, and personally i'd wish them good luck because its not them who are trying to ban free speech, so who are the real Nazis it makes you wonder.

Wait, so now your saying the worst feature of the Nazi's was the fact that they banned freedom of speech?I don't think so. Plus, we're talking about one issue here. We aren't talking about the end of freedom of speech entirely.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Wait, so now your saying the worst feature of the Nazi's was the fact that they banned freedom of speech?I don't think so. Plus, we're talking about one issue here. We aren't talking about the end of freedom of speech entirely.

Where did I say that?

[Tash.]

If you continue to try and silence the British National Party in undemocratic ways then you will give them more support, and personally i'd wish them good luck because its not them who are trying to ban free speech, so who are the real Nazis it makes you wonder.

Where did I say that?

To me the bit in bold really suggests that you are comparing my stance to that imposed by the Nazi's in Germany in the 1930s. Infact my stance is nothing at all like that.

[Ardemax]

Why, who laughed at whose funeral??? :S

If you read the previous posts you'd understanding we're comparing.

I didn't say it wasn't a fact, I said some people think its not a fact and in a democracy it is their right to state their opinion.

I wouldn't feel anything because I would know they are dead. :S

You've completely missed the point. I think Tash has explained.

[-:Undertaker:-]

To me the bit in bold really suggests that you are comparing my stance to that imposed by the Nazi's in Germany in the 1930s. Infact my stance is nothing at all like that.

Of course its similar to that of the Nazis on the point of free speech, if you wish to make free speech over historical events illegal then you have no respect for freedom of speech or democracy.

If you read the previous posts you'd understanding we're comparing.

You've completely missed the point. I think Tash has explained.

How about you explain it then, Tash is not making any sense what so ever - I ask whether denial of the holocaust should be banned or not and Tash says no, yet then continues arguing against me for being against denial of the holocaust being made illegal.

Instead of waiting for Tash, Alexxx and whoever else, you explain your own point for once.

[Black_Apalachi]

If you read the previous posts you'd understanding we're comparing.
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Don't worry, I read every page. However that's a completely irrational comparison. Saying 'the Holocaust didn't happen' 60 years afterwards is not at all similar to going to somebody's funeral and laughing.

I've lost interest in this debate because it's became too repetitive.

[Ardemax]

Of course its similar to that of the Nazis on the point of free speech, if you wish to make free speech over historical events illegal then you have no respect for freedom of speech or democracy.



How about you explain it then, Tash is not making any sense what so ever - I ask whether denial of the holocaust should be banned or not and Tash says no, yet then continues arguing against me for being against denial of the holocaust being made illegal.

Instead of waiting for Tash, Alexxx and whoever else, you explain your own point for once.

I think I've explained it.

Maybe you should check over the last 5 pages or so and read what I've said.
Then we can debate on that, instead of asking me to repeat myself several times.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think I've explained it.

Maybe you should check over the last 5 pages or so and read what I've said.
Then we can debate on that, instead of asking me to repeat myself several times.

Your comparison makes no sense though, so I cannot say anything more because the example you are giving/others are giving of a funeral does not make sense at all and is nothing like denial of the holocaust.

[Seatherny]

Your comparison makes no sense though, so I cannot say anything more because the example you are giving/others are giving of a funeral does not make sense at all and is nothing like denial of the holocaust.

Yes it is and it has been explained several times in this thread (especially in the last two days), so please re-read it.