weekend games.

[Bun]

i don't think beckford is overated. he's too good for leeds. he's good at creating chances and finishing them, if he goes to the right club he will get a lot of chances and thus be a success.



boro match was pretty dire again, flukey goal was good though.

[Arron]

any hull fans on here at OT yesterday?

[TickTockTickTock]

Don't think the forum has any Hull fans tbh...

[leah]

To be fair, in his last two games against PL sides, he's scored 3 goals. Good sides too.

Most of them were lucky Jake, plus in the PL he won't get given half as many chances as he gets atm.

Leeds fans are all the same with this "we belong in the premier league", "we're better than you all" thing. you don't and you're not. the table doesn't lie as they say and if you belonged in the premier league you'd be there. you had your chance to get promoted in 2008, you didn't take it. you had it last year, you didn't take it.

We're not talking about the teams, after all the team is what gains you relegation and promotion. I mean the club as a whole, getting higher attendances than most of the sides in the PL shows how big a club leeds is and the bigger clubs should be in the higher leagues. The only reason we are in such a low league is through poor management of finances.

beckfords first touch is too poor for the premier league in my opinion

finally someone who speaks sense!

One was a penalty and one was just a fluke.

If he did come to the PL it'd just be David Nugent, Michael Chopra, Ebanks-Blake, Marlon King, Gary Mcsheffery, Rob Earnshaw, Jason Scotland etc all over again. They've all been relatively prolific in lower divisions but haven't really experienced success in the top flight. I know some of those players haven't really played much this season, but you get my point.

exactly, in this league he can beat defenders and get *loads* of chances because they're slower and not as good at defending, he scores loads of goals in a *crap* league but he still manages to miss way more shots than he scores and thats cause he has poor control of the ball. He rarely creates his own chances, he usually gets them handed to him on a plate.

don't forget how many chances he created though.

he beat decent united defenders
first to react in the box from the corner against spurs
won the penalty against spurs

how many times did he beat those defenders though? not often...
anyone can win a penalty, you just get fouled, it's not some amazing skill he has :rolleyes:
Beckford rarely creates his own chances, he usually relies on his supporting striker to hand it to him on a plate and about 7/10 times he will miss the goal. He won't last in the PL, he doesn't have the skill, he'll get fewer chances than he does now and his goal rate will drop dramatically, that's if he ever even gets picked.

i don't think beckford is overated. he's too good for leeds. he's good at creating chances and finishing them, if he goes to the right club he will get a lot of chances and thus be a success.



boro match was pretty dire again, flukey goal was good though.

He isn't good at getting chances? he's a very lazy striker and his ego is far too big. Every time i've seen him play he's had chances handed to him and he's missed most of them and then blamed other people. If he goes to a club in the PL the amount of chances will decrease because the defenders are much better in that league, in league 1 he has so many chances that he can afford to miss most of them but he won't get those opportunities in higher leagues.

[adaym]

any hull fans on here at OT yesterday?

I think the killer question is... any United fans on here at OT yesterday?

[CHA!NGANG]

Hm. Mixed line-up. We have Fabianski, Campbell, Silvestre, Traore, Fabregas, Denilson, Walcott and Vela playing who are all capable players. We also have Arshavin on the bench just incase so hoping for a good result. 3 reserve team players starting today so we'll see how they do but I'm glad Fabregas is playing.

[leah]

I think the killer question is... any United fans on here at OT yesterday?

nah clowgon left

[AlexOC]

Stoke 1 - 0 Arsenal

1 minute in.

Rory delap throw.

[Geraint]

One was a penalty and one was just a fluke.

If he did come to the PL it'd just be David Nugent, Michael Chopra, Ebanks-Blake, Marlon King, Gary Mcsheffery, Rob Earnshaw, Jason Scotland etc all over again. They've all been relatively prolific in lower divisions but haven't really experienced success in the top flight. I know some of those players haven't really played much this season, but you get my point.

Without being biased, Chopra wasn't actually that bad, he was just played on the wing alot. Hope the Sunderland fans back me up

Leah, you're in League one because your team's not good enough not because of "poor management of finances"

Goodbye Arsenal. Why rest half your team v Stoke? :S

[CHA!NGANG]

Ah crap lol. Errr... yeah donno why we are but I still think we can win. Arshavin, Rosicky and Eduardo all on the bench so we have the fire power but the defence is too weak at the moment.