Climategate continues as scientist at centre of row admits no warming since 1995

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...organised.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...organised.html

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers. Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’. The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon. And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming. The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data. The raw data, collected from hundreds of weather stations around the world and analysed by his unit, has been used for years to bolster efforts by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to press governments to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

At last its all coming out, although i'd like to see how on this forum people see it. Recent opinion polls by the BBC had shown support for the idea of man-made climate change was rapidly declining after a series of leaks and trips involved the hacking of this centre by the Russians and of the revalation that the head of the IPCC (worlds top climate change body) doesnt even have a degree in climatology and is merely a former railway worker.

How convenient that this man lost his papers, probably his most important papers at a time when the entire scam is being exposed - much like Tony Blair 'accidently' shredded his expenses. Do you still believe in man-made global warming and thoughts?

[Tash.]

Yes I do. The earth cannot take the amount of C02 we are now producing. It was perhaps inevitable as society developed around the world but still, yes I believe it exists.

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Yes I do. The earth cannot take the amount of C02 we are now producing. It was perhaps inevitable as society developed around the world but still, yes I believe it exists.

But the temperature hasn't warmed since 1995 and the amount that volcanos are constantly throwing out apparentely is far greater than any amount we put out into the air so how on earth can the earth not take it?- The money involved in this for the government, European Union, green energy companies (which the likes of Al Gore have made millions out of) is astronomical.

Its been exposed now for what it is, a massive lie and i'm glad people are waking up to it.

[GommeInc]

It's plausible, but the current climate change we are going through seems to be natural. It's common sense, we leave an ice age therefore it gets warmer... Man-made global warming could exist, but doesn't man produce less CO2 now? Seeing as the industrial age, where coal was burned every day is virtually non-existent.

[Eoin]

I think the planet has a natural cycle of warming and cooling and that man-made CO2 pollution only counts a small percentage towards it.

[Technologic]

We're still in a bloody ice age. I'm not saying it's warm until we're out of it.

[Black_Apalachi]

I clicked do not believe but we must account for some portion of global warming, albeit nothing on the grand scale of what is being waved in our faces all the time

[DrLacero]

This question is not a matter of belief, the evidence strongly suggests that human carbon emissions have an inpact on the global temperature.

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This question is not a matter of belief, the evidence strongly suggests that human carbon emissions have an inpact on the global temperature.

The evidence suggests now shows that global temperatures have not risen since 1995, so where is this global warming and its effects from our man-made emissions?

[Tash.]

The evidence suggests now shows that global temperatures have not risen since 1995, so where is this global warming and its effects from our man-made emissions?

Look, evidence at first suggested that global warming was true. Now what you're trying to get across is that it doesn't and the world hasn't warmed since 1995. But, what exactly stops this from being false too? Nobody knows. I myself would rather err on the side of caution and reduce C02 emissions because no matter what you say, they are not doing this world any good. Not only this but we do need alternative fuel methods anyway because what we have isn't going to last.