Climategate continues as scientist at centre of row admits no warming since 1995

[Oleh]

Okay ive put my argument across to my teachers but them being so far up their arse they dont think its true.


Global warming isnt man made its a natural occurence hence the ice age and stone age, Ice caps are rare and we so happen to be coming out of an ice age which was 8000 years ago, when the ice caps melt we will not go under water due to ice having a higher density than water so the level will more than likely lower.


Please, if you can, correct me on any of my statements - Thanks

[-:Undertaker:-]

Look, evidence at first suggested that global warming was true. Now what you're trying to get across is that it doesn't and the world hasn't warmed since 1995. But, what exactly stops this from being false too? Nobody knows. I myself would rather err on the side of caution and reduce C02 emissions because no matter what you say, they are not doing this world any good. Not only this but we do need alternative fuel methods anyway because what we have isn't going to last.

It obviously did not because temperatures have not risen since 1995 so no, they knew all along and hence why this guy has now 'lost' his paper to support his graph just like Tony Blair 'accidently' shredded his expense papers. On what stops this being false? - well the fact the guy actually refuses to show the paper, the fact they've been caught fixing data to suit their study work, the fact that billions are being made from taxation on this issue and people like Al Gore are benefitting massively with carbon credit schemes.

You say side of caution, but side of caution from what exactly? - theres nothing to be cautious about. The energy side, while I do not agree oil and gas are anywhere near running out (we only use roughly around half of a well and theres still many many despoits to be found and explored) I agree that on the matter of energy security we need to swicth to nuclear energy which would mean our country is not at the hands of Russia, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

The fact they are determined to waste the money on windmills (which you need miles and miles of and thousands and thousands of them to match the power of a small nuclear powerplant) which benefits all these green companies which people like Al Gore have a share of the pie in just goes to show what an absolute scam it is.

[DrLacero]

The evidence suggests now shows that global temperatures have not risen since 1995, so where is this global warming and its effects from our man-made emissions?

"no statistically significant warming" != No Warming

Relevant.

[-:Undertaker:-]

"no statistically significant warming" != No Warming

Relevant.

No we are not talking about the original source, the original source must be correct because Professor Jones who I mentioned at the top of this thread has said admitted that the earth has not warmed since 1995. Of course in some places it will be warmer, just like in other places it will be cooler however the earth overall is not getting warmer. This also does not combat the fact that the Roman Empire used to be able to grow grapes in the Province of Britannia up north near Hadrians wall, whereas nowadays in the United Kingdom that is impossible as the weather kills the vines off and its barely possible down south.

Sea levels have also not risen.. so where is this global warming? - the fact of the matter is, its all coming out now and the reason they cannot provide the data we ask for regarding the main hockey-stick graph used to support global warming shows what a total and utter sham it is. The fact they no longer like to call it global warming and would rather the term climate change I think gives the whole thing away in one line.

[iAdam]

I go for the scare mongering explanation, they are scaring the publics into stuff such as this as it draws attention away from the recession and swine flu and whatever you have.

[Gullable]

even if its not real, i think we should share cars to cut down c02 or w.e and recycle and stuff even if it aint real its worth cutting down a bit..

[Black_Apalachi]

I don't even know how car-sharing works. Maybe on a big posh estate but there's no chance of it on my road. Hardly anybody even speaks to each other